[R-gui] Re: [R] Feedback about SciViews?

Zed, Byron,

As moderator of this mailing list, I have no intention to censurate 
this
very interesting discussion. However, I have no objection on the 
subject but
I ask you to behave a little bit more respectfully with the work or 
ideas of
other people.

I understand pretty much your feeling, Zed, about the million of 
things that
are not programmed as it should be in R for being the perfect backend, 
or
scripting language. I have the same feeling, and I certainly share 
with you
hundred of hours lost in finding a solution to such or such damn ill
behaviour in R... However, Byron and Zed, you should keep in mind that:

1) R is designed and developed as a high level data analysis language 
to be
accessed at the command line, and it is excellent for that, otherwise 
it
would never get the success it has. It is thus normal that its 
behavious is
far from perfect for what it is not designed for: GUI and scripting
language.

2) Making a GUI on top of R is not such an easy task. Either, the GUI 
must
adapt to the particular behaviour of R or R must be redesigned to be a 
nicer
backend (answer is probably in the middle at the long-term if there is 
a
real willing in R-core team to promote the development of R GUIs).

Please, convert your doleances into constructive suggestions and avoid
direct attacks of persons. Most R developers are very competent and
recognized statisticians and/or programmers and they would not 
tolerate it.

Best,

Philippe Grosjean


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Hmm, I didn't think I was directly attacking any one individual in the 
"R priesthood", but if I did, they can e-mail me and I'll appologize 
for hurting their feelings.

Zed