From: Steven McKinney <smckinney at bccrc.ca>
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:04:19 -0800
To: Loren Engrav <engrav at u.washington.edu>, <r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch>
Conversation: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
Subject: RE: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
Hi Loren,
The great thing about R is its depth
of functionality. You could write
a .Last() function in your .Rprofile
that makes a note of your session
working directory (in a clear text
file, or by modifying .Rprofile itself, ...)
so that your .First() function in .Rprofile
can find out where you were last and
start you up there.
Cheers
Steve McKinney
-----Original Message-----
From: r-sig-mac-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch on behalf of Loren Engrav
Sent: Mon 12/10/2007 10:43 AM
To: r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
I think discussion now confused, at least on my end, as I agree too
Home directory in Preferences is good
Drag and drop to go to new directories is good
Random would be bad
But most often when I start R.app I go back to the place I was, which is
usually not home, so finding the drop to drag takes some effort, merely
double clicking seemed like it would be convenient
But I can drag and drop
And more code would make the thing fatter with more bugs
So I can do it
--
Loren Engrav
Univ Washington
Seattle
From: Kasper Daniel Hansen <khansen at stat.Berkeley.EDU>
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:38:39 -0800
To: Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org>
Cc: Loren Engrav <engrav at u.washington.edu>, "r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch"
<r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch>
Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
On Dec 9, 2007, at 7:12 AM, Simon Urbanek wrote:
On Dec 9, 2007, at 12:03 AM, Loren Engrav wrote:
I understand, and can work with this
But then R in the Mac dock is not of much value as it always goes
"home"; no matter what you were working on last
The purpose of the dock is to get quick access to the application -
that has no "value" in terms of which workspace you want to start -
it's still up to you, not the dock. What I was talking about was R in
the dock, so I don't see the connection.
Anyway, as I said earlier, I think that changing the working directory
on startup to some random path without user having a say in this is a
really bad idea and I think a lot of users would find it disturbing.
And I think most everyone else agrees with what Simon says here..
Kasper
From: Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org>
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:08:34 -0500
To: Loren Engrav <engrav at u.washington.edu>
Cc: "r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch" <r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch>
Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
On Dec 8, 2007, at 7:48 PM, Loren Engrav wrote:
Thank you for the help
Ah so, default is in Preferences and the new is under Misc in the
menu bar
I can do that and will
But might it not be more convenient if on R.app start you went to
where you
were last time, since most often you wish to go to the place you
just left
Although it would be possible to make that a configurable option,
it'd
definitely not want that. It would make R's behavior sort of random,
because you would never know where it will start from ... a really
bad
thing (IMHO).
If you want to work on a specific project, it's much more
convenient
to just drag the directory on R to start it and you can then work on
multiple projects conveniently and independently.
PS: Please use R-SIG-Mac for Mac-specific questions.
This is appearing in R-SIG-Mac. What am I missing here?
Oops, sorry, my bad, the "To" was showing R-devel for some
mysterious
reason...
Cheers,
Simon
From: Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org>
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 18:57:14 -0500
To: Loren Engrav <engrav at u.washington.edu>
Cc: "r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch" <r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch>
Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
On Dec 8, 2007, at 6:37 PM, Loren Engrav wrote:
Using Mac 10.4.11
And sessionInfo() say
R version 2.6.1 (2007-11-26)
powerpc-apple-darwin8.10.1
locale:
en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8
attached base packages:
[1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods
base
Directory is ABC and history is XYZ
So I change directory to FGH and history to QRS
Then I quit R and say save workspace
Then I start R
And am back to workspace ABC and history XYZ
Well, if ABC and XYZ is in home and you didn't change the default
settings and started R.app directly then that is exactly as
expected.
Would seem I should be at FGH and QRS
Why? That would be quite bad as FGH and QRS have nothing to do
with
your home. The whole point of changing a directory is usually
exactly
the fact that you don't want to overwrite the workspace in your
home.
What am I missing? Is it staring me in the face and I cannot see
it?
I'd say reading 4.3.3 in the R for Mac FAQ may possibly explain
this a
bit ...
Cheers,
Simon
PS: Please use R-SIG-Mac for Mac-specific questions.