Can't get help.start() to work.

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I think this has been mentioned by others, but you seem to be making
life difficult for yourself.

I beg to differ.  I don't think that ***I*** have done
	anything to make life difficult for myself.

When you install R on a recent mac

If by ``recent mac'' you mean a relatively recent version of
	Mac OS X, then this does not apply to me.  I'm still using
	what is apparently known as ``Tiger''; Mac OS X 10.4.11.

you essentially get two versions, one for 32bit and one for 64bit.   
These
are not compatible w/ each other (and no amount of effort would ever
make them so).  The installer (2.10.0 IIRC) installs in addition a GUI
for each R.app (32bit) and R64.app (64bit).  The default when
launching R in the terminal with Snow Leopard appears to be 64bit.

But I'm *not* using Snow Leopard; I'm using Tiger.

You can check this by opening the Activity Monitor application and
looking for the R process.

Had a look.  Can't see ***anything*** about 32 bit vs. 64 bit.
	The activity monitor just says ``R''.

If you install or build packages using the
default terminal version of R you *MUST* use R64.app for the packages
to work properly.  If built 64bit they must be run 64bit.  Your error
message say you are trying to load a package in 32bit R (probably
R.app) that have been install/build w/ 64bit R (the terminal).  I
recommend that you stick w/ one computer architecture (in this case
terminal and R64.app might work well for you).

Sorry to be a bit thick, but I don't quite follow this.
	Are you saying that the only way for me to get R for my
	machine now is to use a pre-built binary; that I ***can't***
	build from source?  This would seem to be so since:

	* you are saying that if I build from source then I *have*
	to use 64 bit R

	* but I have been told that I ***cannot*** use 64 bit R with
	Tiger.

	I guess that I can live with having to use pre-built binaries.
	Now that I know where to *get* a 32 bit binary, that's fine.
	The only reason I tried to build from source was because the
	2.10.0 binary on CRAN was 64 bit and that won't work under
	``Tiger''.

	I could also try to get my employer to upgrade me to Snow
	Leopard, but my chances .....

	Anyway ... I now have the 32 bit binary build, which I downloaded
	from the r.research.att web site, installed.  So how or in what
	way am I mixing architectures?  (I also downloaded the 2.10.0
	32 bit GUI from the r.research.att web site.  So all should be
	in harmony, should it not?)

       This is getting ridiculous.  Everything I try engenders
another error and another fiasco.  Things have become too complex and
intricate.  IMHO too much effort has been expended on implementing
gee-whiz facilities for the super-clever or GUI facilities for the
retarded at the expense of simple usability for the ordinary  
middle of
the road user.

I would gently suggest that this is not the best attitude to display
when trying to get help from volunteers.  I understand that you are
frustrated, but keep in mind that Simon and the other core developers
have expended far far more time that you've lost due to your
frustrations so that we could all have R.

They were doing it of their own choosing.  I have had my
	frustrations forced upon me, since I need to get R working
	properly in order to get on with what I'm being paid to do.

	Furthermore ***they*** understand what's going; I don't!!!

Furthermore, the changes
that are riling you at the moment are as much (if not more so) a
result of the changes that Apple has made w/ Snow Leopard.

Well, that's different!!! :-)

		cheers,

			Rolf Turner

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