13 messages · Timothy Bates, Marc Schwartz, Berend Hasselman +3 more
Hi all, I wonder if there could be a way to allow querys like the following to succeed by changes to the gui command line? ?>
Error: unexpected '>' in "?>?
?%*% Error: unexpected SPECIAL in "?%*%" cheers, tim
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Hi all, I wonder if there could be a way to allow querys like the following to succeed by changes to the gui command line? ?>
Error: unexpected '>' in "?>?
?%*% Error: unexpected SPECIAL in "?%*%" cheers, tim
Just surround the topic with quotes: ?">" and ?"%in%" This is covered in ?help: "Some topics need to be quoted (by backticks) or given as a character string. There include those which cannot syntactically appear on their own such as unary and binary operators, function and control-flow reserved words (including if, elsefor, in, repeat, while, break and next. The other reserved words can be used as if they were names, for example TRUE, NA and Inf." HTH. Marc Schwartz
just do '?>'
?> Error: unexpected '>' in ??>?
Thanks Mark and Ian, Glad it?s a straightforward and memorable workaround. And this is easy in the new GUI (which adds quotes around a selection. Still wish that the error told me that was a likely cause: I just assumed it was impossible to search on. Followup GUI query: Is there a was to go to the beginning of the command line directly? My method is to cmd-right select the line, then use right arrow to fall off the end of the selection leaving the cursor at the start (ready to type a ?) This fails: The right arrow just does nothing? As cmd-shift-? opens help, a lovely enhancement would be for cmd-cntrl-? to execute ?rGUISelection Then help would be just a matter of select and keystroke, with no need to delete the? or pollute the history. EnjoyR, tim
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just do '?>'
On 25 May 2011, at 5:20 PM, Marc Schwartz wrote:
?> Error: unexpected '>' in ??>?
Thanks Mark and Ian, Glad it?s a straightforward and memorable workaround. And this is easy in the new GUI (which adds quotes around a selection. Still wish that the error told me that was a likely cause: I just assumed it was impossible to search on. Followup GUI query: Is there a was to go to the beginning of the command line directly? My method is to cmd-right select the line, then use right arrow to fall off the end of the selection leaving the cursor at the start (ready to type a ?)
cntrl-a works for me on the GUI and I suspect on a terminal console session as well, since I have been told that it is a UNIX convention.
David Winsemius, MD West Hartford, CT
just do '?>'
On 25 May 2011, at 5:20 PM, Marc Schwartz wrote:
?> Error: unexpected '>' in ??>?
Thanks Mark and Ian, Glad it?s a straightforward and memorable workaround. And this is easy in the new GUI (which adds quotes around a selection. Still wish that the error told me that was a likely cause: I just assumed it was impossible to search on. Followup GUI query: Is there a was to go to the beginning of the command line directly? My method is to cmd-right select the line, then use right arrow to fall off the end of the selection leaving the cursor at the start (ready to type a ?) This fails: The right arrow just does nothing?
Command-left arrow Ctrl-A And you can create a DefaultKeyBinding.dict in the directory ~/Library/Keybindings with a mapping of the Home to the Cocoa cursor command "moveToBeginningOfLine:". See http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/site/cocoa-text.html For example, if you have a DefaultKeyBinding.dict file containing { /* home Shift+home*/ "\UF729" = "moveToBeginningOfLine:"; "$\UF729" = "moveToBeginningOfLineAndModifySelection:"; /* end Shift+end*/ "\UF72B" = "moveToEndOfLine:"; "$\UF72B" = "moveToEndOfLineAndModifySelection:"; } Home will move the cursor to the start of a line End will move the cursor to the end of a line Combined with a shift key, these will select from the current cursor position to the start/end of line. Berend
The left arrow just does nothing when a selection has been made (whereas the right arrow undoes the selection, leaving the cursor to its right)
Command-left arrow Ctrl-A ?
Again, thanks for the help: I think it is a bug that left-arrow does not deselect the selection and leave the cursor immediately to the left of the old selection. having hte left-arrow move left is completely standard on mac applications., where as control-A is Unix only. thanks again for the replies, t
Home will move the cursor to the start of a line End will move the cursor to the end of a line
PS: not keys I have unfortunately :-(
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On 25 May 2011, at 5:50 PM, Berend Hasselman wrote:
The left arrow just does nothing when a selection has been made (whereas the right arrow undoes the selection, leaving the cursor to its right)
Command-left arrow Ctrl-A ?
Again, thanks for the help: I think it is a bug that left-arrow does not deselect the selection and leave the cursor immediately to the left of the old selection. having hte left-arrow move left is completely standard on mac applications., where as control-A is Unix only. thanks again for the replies, t
Home will move the cursor to the start of a line End will move the cursor to the end of a line
PS: not keys I have unfortunately :-(
If this is because you have an Apple laptop, Fn left-arrow and Fn right-arrow are Home and End respectively. Berend
Home will move the cursor to the start of a line End will move the cursor to the end of a line
Not on my machine in the GUI. Goes to top or bottom of the console window.
David Winsemius, MD West Hartford, CT
On May 25, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Berend Hasselman wrote:
Home will move the cursor to the start of a line End will move the cursor to the end of a line
Not on my machine in the GUI. Goes to top or bottom of the console window.
To get the behaviour I described you have to have a DefaultKeyBinding.dict with the appropriate key definitions. Otherwise indeed Home/End go to top/end of text/window. Berend
I wonder if there could be a way to allow querys like the following to succeed by changes to the gui command line? ?>
Error: unexpected '>' in "?>?
Hi Tim, did you try to simply select the pattern (here > ) and press CTRL+H or right-click for content menu and select "Show Help for current Function"? Cheers, --Hans
On May 25, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Berend Hasselman wrote:
Home will move the cursor to the start of a line End will move the cursor to the end of a line
Not on my machine in the GUI. Goes to top or bottom of the console window.
What Berend meant is that if you want to re-define the behavior to be non-standard with the modifications he listed (which you cut out), you can have it behave that way. It is not the default or intended behavior, though. (Windows users may be more used to it which is presumably why he mentioned it). Just to re-iterate, the standard Mac way to go to the beginning of the line is <Cmd><Left>. The standard Mac way to move up a paragraph is <Alt><Up> (which is equivalent to going to the beginning of a paragraph except when you are already there). There is an emacs equivalent <Ctrl><A> which goes to the beginning of the paragraph. Now, in fact he GUI behaves slightly differently, but no one noticed ;). Due to the special treatment of the prompt, the commands concerning the beginnings of things have special work-arounds, so for example beginning of the line equals beginning of the paragraph in the GUI. However, this is what people most commonly want, so I'm not sure it's abad thing. I'll see if I can make the behavior consistent, though. Cheers, Simon
Hans said:
did you try to simply select the function and press CTRL+H or right-click for content menu and select "Show Help for current Function??
fantastic Hans! PS: I looked in the help menu and saw nothing like ?help on selection cntrl-H? ?. that would help with newbie discovery (like me :-) ) Simon said:
the GUI behaves slightly differently, but no one noticed ;). Due to the special treatment of the prompt, the commands concerning the beginnings of things have special work-arounds, so for example beginning of the line equals beginning of the paragraph in the GUI. However, this is what people most commonly want, so I'm not sure it's abad thing. I'll see if I can make the behavior consistent, though.
Would be great: it is unusual not to be able to left-arrow out of a selection. Maybe I can get used to Cmd?left-arrow to go to beginning of line: I think I use the shift key to highlight so I can attend the new location of the cursor more easily. t
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Hans said:
did you try to simply select the function and press CTRL+H or right-click for content menu and select "Show Help for current Function??
fantastic Hans! PS: I looked in the help menu and saw nothing like ?help on selection cntrl-H? ?. that would help with newbie discovery (like me :-) ) Simon said:
the GUI behaves slightly differently, but no one noticed ;). Due to the special treatment of the prompt, the commands concerning the beginnings of things have special work-arounds, so for example beginning of the line equals beginning of the paragraph in the GUI. However, this is what people most commonly want, so I'm not sure it's abad thing. I'll see if I can make the behavior consistent, though.
Would be great: it is unusual not to be able to left-arrow out of a selection. Maybe I can get used to Cmd?left-arrow to go to beginning of line: I think I use the shift key to highlight so I can attend the new location of the cursor more easily.
Now fixed. Cheers, Simon