Looking through the archives, I see that the developers of rgl don't have access to a 64 bit Mac, and are waiting for someone else to take the initiative and make an appropriate patch. Unfortunately, I think this is beyond my abilities. Has anyone been able to get it to work? Thanks, Matt
rgl, Leopard, 64 bit
8 messages · Duncan Murdoch, Matthew Cohen, Simon Urbanek +1 more
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Matthew Cohen wrote:
Looking through the archives, I see that the developers of rgl don't have access to a 64 bit Mac, and are waiting for someone else to take the initiative and make an appropriate patch. Unfortunately, I think this is beyond my abilities. Has anyone been able to get it to work?
I now have a 64-bit Mac (10.5.6), and probably the abilities. If you could collect together the relevant posts, I will endeavour to take a look (unless Simon has already got there). Please post a follow-up posting for future reference, and include the rgl maintainers (who I suspect do not read R-sig-mac).
Thanks, Matt
Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
On 1/22/2009 2:45 PM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Matthew Cohen wrote:
Looking through the archives, I see that the developers of rgl don't have access to a 64 bit Mac, and are waiting for someone else to take the initiative and make an appropriate patch. Unfortunately, I think this is beyond my abilities. Has anyone been able to get it to work?
I now have a 64-bit Mac (10.5.6), and probably the abilities. If you could collect together the relevant posts, I will endeavour to take a look (unless Simon has already got there). Please post a follow-up posting for future reference, and include the rgl maintainers (who I suspect do not read R-sig-mac).
At least one of us does, and I'd be happy to make changes to the configure script if someone tells me what to do. I'm still on a 32 bit laptop, but no longer have access to 10.4, so support for that version may decay quite rapidly. Duncan Murdoch
This is very exciting; I wasn't expecting such a prompt response. The only references I have found are these two threads from nearly a year ago: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-sig-mac/2008-February/004602.html https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2008-February/155041.html Thanks for giving this a look. Matt
On Jan 22, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Matthew Cohen wrote:
Looking through the archives, I see that the developers of rgl don't have access to a 64 bit Mac, and are waiting for someone else to take the initiative and make an appropriate patch. Unfortunately, I think this is beyond my abilities. Has anyone been able to get it to work?
I now have a 64-bit Mac (10.5.6), and probably the abilities. If you could collect together the relevant posts, I will endeavour to take a look (unless Simon has already got there). Please post a follow-up posting for future reference, and include the rgl maintainers (who I suspect do not read R-sig-mac).
Thanks, Matt
-- Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
On Jan 22, 2009, at 14:39 , Matthew Cohen wrote:
Looking through the archives, I see that the developers of rgl don't have access to a 64 bit Mac, and are waiting for someone else to take the initiative and make an appropriate patch. Unfortunately, I think this is beyond my abilities. Has anyone been able to get it to work?
FWIW you don't really need a 64-bit Mac to work on this ;). Nonetheless it's not a trivial task because the current implementation uses deprecated API so it essentially means to re-write the UI part almost entirely. I suspect that's the reason why I have not seen any volunteers yet ... (I had a look, but when I saw the scope I could not dedicate enough time to do it ...). Cheers, S
rgl attempts on OS X to build both X11 and 'Carbon' versions. You can inhibit the latter by R CMD INSTALL --configure-args='--disable-carbon' .../rgl_0.81.tar.gz The X11 version does work -- had you not tried that? A native Mac OS X version will be a lot more work, so to encourage people you will need to explain what is not enough in the X11 version.
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Matthew Cohen wrote:
Looking through the archives, I see that the developers of rgl don't have access to a 64 bit Mac, and are waiting for someone else to take the initiative and make an appropriate patch. Unfortunately, I think this is beyond my abilities. Has anyone been able to get it to work?
I now have a 64-bit Mac (10.5.6), and probably the abilities. If you could collect together the relevant posts, I will endeavour to take a look (unless Simon has already got there). Please post a follow-up posting for future reference, and include the rgl maintainers (who I suspect do not read R-sig-mac).
Thanks, Matt
-- Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
On Jan 23, 2009, at 2:41 AM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
rgl attempts on OS X to build both X11 and 'Carbon' versions. You can inhibit the latter by R CMD INSTALL --configure-args='--disable-carbon' .../rgl_0.81.tar.gz The X11 version does work -- had you not tried that? A native Mac OS X version will be a lot more work, so to encourage people you will need to explain what is not enough in the X11 version.
I was referring to the native version alone. I guess I have misinterpreted the original question. I have a prototype of the native version that could be used in 64-bit if anyone is keen enough to clean up rgl... Either way IMHO the configure script should check whether the Carbon version can be built at all. Cheers, S
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Matthew Cohen wrote:
Looking through the archives, I see that the developers of rgl don't have access to a 64 bit Mac, and are waiting for someone else to take the initiative and make an appropriate patch. Unfortunately, I think this is beyond my abilities. Has anyone been able to get it to work?
I now have a 64-bit Mac (10.5.6), and probably the abilities. If you could collect together the relevant posts, I will endeavour to take a look (unless Simon has already got there). Please post a follow-up posting for future reference, and include the rgl maintainers (who I suspect do not read R-sig-mac).
Thanks, Matt
-- Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
-- Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
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Thanks. I was indeed trying to build a Carbon version. I'd love to see it run natively -- it would surely look a lot better, and it seems to me that pretty graphics are the whole point of this package -- but X11 works fine for me. Sorry for the bother. Matt
On Jan 23, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Simon Urbanek wrote:
On Jan 23, 2009, at 2:41 AM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
rgl attempts on OS X to build both X11 and 'Carbon' versions. You can inhibit the latter by R CMD INSTALL --configure-args='--disable-carbon' .../ rgl_0.81.tar.gz The X11 version does work -- had you not tried that? A native Mac OS X version will be a lot more work, so to encourage people you will need to explain what is not enough in the X11 version.
I was referring to the native version alone. I guess I have misinterpreted the original question. I have a prototype of the native version that could be used in 64-bit if anyone is keen enough to clean up rgl... Either way IMHO the configure script should check whether the Carbon version can be built at all. Cheers, S
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Matthew Cohen wrote:
Looking through the archives, I see that the developers of rgl don't have access to a 64 bit Mac, and are waiting for someone else to take the initiative and make an appropriate patch. Unfortunately, I think this is beyond my abilities. Has anyone been able to get it to work?
I now have a 64-bit Mac (10.5.6), and probably the abilities. If you could collect together the relevant posts, I will endeavour to take a look (unless Simon has already got there). Please post a follow-up posting for future reference, and include the rgl maintainers (who I suspect do not read R-sig-mac).
Thanks, Matt
-- Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
-- Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
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