[Ggobi-help] building ggobi on OS X: gtk+/xfree86 problem

The "fink install gtk+" script gives me two choices for xfree86: install
a Fink version or keep the Panther version and tell Fink. Can anyone
comment on their experience of which is better with RGgobi and any other
R packages?

Thanks,
George

Hi George,

I've always used the Panther version - however, once you've got the
development toolkit installed and ggobi compiled, it seems to work
equally well with either.  I prefer the Panther X11 as it tends to
integrate slightly nicer with the rest of OS X.  Apart from that, I
haven't noticed any differences (not that I can claim to have used
either extensively)

In the slightly longer term, I think the ggobi team is aiming to
produce mac binary build so that this shouldn't be a problem anymore.

Hadley


On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:35:01 -0500, George Ostrouchov
<ostrouchovg@ornl.gov> wrote:

The "fink install gtk+" script gives me two choices for xfree86: 
install
a Fink version or keep the Panther version and tell Fink. Can anyone
comment on their experience of which is better with RGgobi and any 
other
R packages?

Thanks,
George

You can actually build a Mac version without fink by using the Open 
Darwin packages (they use standard Mac .pkg files so you could 
conceivably create a ggobi mpkg) for the gtk dependencies. I managed 
to do it last December. There are some problems with various plugins 
unrelated to those packages, but thats a different issue. :-)

I'm pretty sure you need, dlcompat, gtk, iconv and perhaps others 
along with the Panther X11.

On Mar 15, 2005, at 2:10 PM, hadley wickham wrote:

Hi George,

I've always used the Panther version - however, once you've got the
development toolkit installed and ggobi compiled, it seems to work
equally well with either.  I prefer the Panther X11 as it tends to
integrate slightly nicer with the rest of OS X.  Apart from that, I
haven't noticed any differences (not that I can claim to have used
either extensively)

In the slightly longer term, I think the ggobi team is aiming to
produce mac binary build so that this shouldn't be a problem anymore.

Hadley

Which version of gtk did you use? gtk-1.x, gtk-2.x, or gtk-osx 
(apparently gtk-1.x in carbon)

George

Byron Ellis wrote:

You can actually build a Mac version without fink by using the Open 
Darwin packages (they use standard Mac .pkg files so you could 
conceivably create a ggobi mpkg) for the gtk dependencies. I managed 
to do it last December. There are some problems with various plugins 
unrelated to those packages, but thats a different issue. :-)

I'm pretty sure you need, dlcompat, gtk, iconv and perhaps others 
along with the Panther X11.

On Mar 15, 2005, at 2:10 PM, hadley wickham wrote:

Hi George,

I've always used the Panther version - however, once you've got the
development toolkit installed and ggobi compiled, it seems to work
equally well with either.  I prefer the Panther X11 as it tends to
integrate slightly nicer with the rest of OS X.  Apart from that, I
haven't noticed any differences (not that I can claim to have used
either extensively)

In the slightly longer term, I think the ggobi team is aiming to
produce mac binary build so that this shouldn't be a problem anymore.

Hadley

Which version of gtk did you use? gtk-1.x, gtk-2.x, or gtk-osx 
(apparently gtk-1.x in carbon)

IIRC ggobi uses gtk-1.x. The gtk-osx package is reportedly flaky so I 
used the X11 version.

On Mar 16, 2005, at 11:32 AM, George Ostrouchov wrote:

Which version of gtk did you use? gtk-1.x, gtk-2.x, or gtk-osx 
(apparently gtk-1.x in carbon)

George

Byron Ellis wrote:

You can actually build a Mac version without fink by using the Open 
Darwin packages (they use standard Mac .pkg files so you could 
conceivably create a ggobi mpkg) for the gtk dependencies. I managed 
to do it last December. There are some problems with various plugins 
unrelated to those packages, but thats a different issue. :-)

I'm pretty sure you need, dlcompat, gtk, iconv and perhaps others 
along with the Panther X11.

On Mar 15, 2005, at 2:10 PM, hadley wickham wrote:

Hi George,

I've always used the Panther version - however, once you've got the
development toolkit installed and ggobi compiled, it seems to work
equally well with either.  I prefer the Panther X11 as it tends to
integrate slightly nicer with the rest of OS X.  Apart from that, I
haven't noticed any differences (not that I can claim to have used
either extensively)

In the slightly longer term, I think the ggobi team is aiming to
produce mac binary build so that this shouldn't be a problem anymore.

Hadley

---
Byron Ellis (ellis@stat.harvard.edu)
"Oook" -- The Librarian

On Mar 16, 2005, at 2:32 PM, George Ostrouchov wrote:

Which version of gtk did you use? gtk-1.x, gtk-2.x, or gtk-osx 
(apparently gtk-1.x in carbon)

gtk-osx doesn't quite work. It compiles, but some widgets are invisible 
making any sensible use impossible. Presumably either X11 version for 
gtk should work. Some while ago built a self-contained Mac OS X 
installer for ggobi including local gtk+ which worked fine (I didn't 
use any plugins, though). If there is need for such, I could build one 
off the most recent ggobi release...

Cheers,
Simon