I build a version of my hacked R-2.0.1 on Tiger (OX 10.4b2), using the included gcc-3.3 and a fresh g77 build from CVS (12/01). I also rebuild Carbon Emacs and Aqua Tcl/Tk. So far, things seem to work, including the resource fork hack. Remember, however, that Tiger will come with gcc-4.0 (and with gfortran replacing g77). I'll try to get a build using those going as well, because of the additional optimization possibilities. The g77 3.3.5 build has --disable-shared and single threading. [www:~] deleeuw% gcc -v Reading specs from /usr/libexec/gcc/darwin/ppc/3.3/specs Thread model: posix gcc version 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1804) [www:~] deleeuw% g77 -v Reading specs from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-apple-darwin8.0.0b2/3.3.5/specs Configured with: ../gcc-3.3-20041201/configure --enable-languages=c,c++,objc,f77,java Thread model: single gcc version 3.3.5 === Jan de Leeuw; Distinguished Professor and Chair, UCLA Department of Statistics; Editor: Journal of Multivariate Analysis, Journal of Statistical Software US mail: 8130 Math Sciences Bldg, Box 951554, Los Angeles, CA 90095-1554 phone (310)-825-9550; fax (310)-206-5658; email: deleeuw@stat.ucla.edu homepage: http://gifi.stat.ucla.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------- No matter where you go, there you are. --- Buckaroo Banzai http://gifi.stat.ucla.edu/sounds/nomatter.au
R on Tiger (prelim)
6 messages · Jan de Leeuw, stefano iacus
Two questions: aqua tcl/tk is included with Tiger, what do you mean with "I rebuild aqua tcl/tk"? the second: gfortran ? can you send me a version info. btw, it works fine for me with g95 which I suppose is gfortran, but I get g95 from HPC page not from apple. stefano
On Dec 2, 2004, at 7:26 PM, Jan de Leeuw wrote:
I build a version of my hacked R-2.0.1 on Tiger (OX 10.4b2), using the included gcc-3.3 and a fresh g77 build from CVS (12/01). I also rebuild Carbon Emacs and Aqua Tcl/Tk. So far, things seem to work, including the resource fork hack. Remember, however, that Tiger will come with gcc-4.0 (and with gfortran replacing g77). I'll try to get a build using those going as well, because of the additional optimization possibilities. The g77 3.3.5 build has --disable-shared and single threading. [www:~] deleeuw% gcc -v Reading specs from /usr/libexec/gcc/darwin/ppc/3.3/specs Thread model: posix gcc version 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1804) [www:~] deleeuw% g77 -v Reading specs from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-apple-darwin8.0.0b2/3.3.5/specs Configured with: ../gcc-3.3-20041201/configure --enable-languages=c,c++,objc,f77,java Thread model: single gcc version 3.3.5 === Jan de Leeuw; Distinguished Professor and Chair, UCLA Department of Statistics; Editor: Journal of Multivariate Analysis, Journal of Statistical Software US mail: 8130 Math Sciences Bldg, Box 951554, Los Angeles, CA 90095-1554 phone (310)-825-9550; fax (310)-206-5658; email: deleeuw@stat.ucla.edu homepage: http://gifi.stat.ucla.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- No matter where you go, there you are. --- Buckaroo Banzai http://gifi.stat.ucla.edu/sounds/nomatter.au
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On Dec 2, 2004, at 10:58 AM, stefano iacus wrote:
Two questions: aqua tcl/tk is included with Tiger, what do you mean with "I rebuild aqua tcl/tk"?
OK. This should read "I stupidly rebuild aqua tcl/tk".
the second: gfortran ? can you send me a version info.
Starting from gcc-3.5 the FORTRAN driver is called gfortran, not g95 or g77.
btw, it works fine for me with g95 which I suppose is gfortran, but I get g95 from HPC page not from apple.
I did not get it from Apple either, bur from the CVS pages of the FSF (which is where Gaurav gets it as well). I build my own, because (a) I want gcj, and (b) I want to make sure there are no shared libraries build for libgcc and friends in /usr/local
stefano On Dec 2, 2004, at 7:26 PM, Jan de Leeuw wrote:
I build a version of my hacked R-2.0.1 on Tiger (OX 10.4b2), using the included gcc-3.3 and a fresh g77 build from CVS (12/01). I also rebuild Carbon Emacs and Aqua Tcl/Tk. So far, things seem to work, including the resource fork hack. Remember, however, that Tiger will come with gcc-4.0 (and with gfortran replacing g77). I'll try to get a build using those going as well, because of the additional optimization possibilities. The g77 3.3.5 build has --disable-shared and single threading. [www:~] deleeuw% gcc -v Reading specs from /usr/libexec/gcc/darwin/ppc/3.3/specs Thread model: posix gcc version 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1804) [www:~] deleeuw% g77 -v Reading specs from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-apple-darwin8.0.0b2/3.3.5/specs Configured with: ../gcc-3.3-20041201/configure --enable-languages=c,c++,objc,f77,java Thread model: single gcc version 3.3.5 === Jan de Leeuw; Distinguished Professor and Chair, UCLA Department of Statistics; Editor: Journal of Multivariate Analysis, Journal of Statistical Software US mail: 8130 Math Sciences Bldg, Box 951554, Los Angeles, CA 90095-1554 phone (310)-825-9550; fax (310)-206-5658; email: deleeuw@stat.ucla.edu homepage: http://gifi.stat.ucla.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- No matter where you go, there you are. --- Buckaroo Banzai http://gifi.stat.ucla.edu/sounds/nomatter.au
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On Dec 2, 2004, at 8:14 PM, Jan de Leeuw wrote:
On Dec 2, 2004, at 10:58 AM, stefano iacus wrote:
Two questions: aqua tcl/tk is included with Tiger, what do you mean with "I rebuild aqua tcl/tk"?
OK. This should read "I stupidly rebuild aqua tcl/tk".
the second: gfortran ? can you send me a version info.
Starting from gcc-3.5 the FORTRAN driver is called gfortran, not g95 or g77.
I was aware of this in fact but thanks for confirmation
btw, it works fine for me with g95 which I suppose is gfortran, but I get g95 from HPC page not from apple.
I did not get it from Apple either, bur from the CVS pages of the FSF (which is where Gaurav gets it as well). I build my own, because (a) I want gcj, and (b) I want to make sure there are no shared libraries build for libgcc and friends in /usr/local
so, that's what I suspected as well. Apple won't ship any fortran compiler for this release of Mac OS X :( thanks Jan, as usual stefano
stefano On Dec 2, 2004, at 7:26 PM, Jan de Leeuw wrote:
I build a version of my hacked R-2.0.1 on Tiger (OX 10.4b2), using the included gcc-3.3 and a fresh g77 build from CVS (12/01). I also rebuild Carbon Emacs and Aqua Tcl/Tk. So far, things seem to work, including the resource fork hack. Remember, however, that Tiger will come with gcc-4.0 (and with gfortran replacing g77). I'll try to get a build using those going as well, because of the additional optimization possibilities. The g77 3.3.5 build has --disable-shared and single threading. [www:~] deleeuw% gcc -v Reading specs from /usr/libexec/gcc/darwin/ppc/3.3/specs Thread model: posix gcc version 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1804) [www:~] deleeuw% g77 -v Reading specs from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-apple-darwin8.0.0b2/3.3.5/specs Configured with: ../gcc-3.3-20041201/configure --enable-languages=c,c++,objc,f77,java Thread model: single gcc version 3.3.5 === Jan de Leeuw; Distinguished Professor and Chair, UCLA Department of Statistics; Editor: Journal of Multivariate Analysis, Journal of Statistical Software US mail: 8130 Math Sciences Bldg, Box 951554, Los Angeles, CA 90095-1554 phone (310)-825-9550; fax (310)-206-5658; email: deleeuw@stat.ucla.edu homepage: http://gifi.stat.ucla.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- No matter where you go, there you are. --- Buckaroo Banzai http://gifi.stat.ucla.edu/sounds/nomatter.au
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On Dec 2, 2004, at 8:14 PM, Jan de Leeuw wrote:
On Dec 2, 2004, at 10:58 AM, stefano iacus wrote:
Two questions: aqua tcl/tk is included with Tiger, what do you mean with "I rebuild aqua tcl/tk"?
OK. This should read "I stupidly rebuild aqua tcl/tk".
well, I forgot to mention. No hack is necessary apparently. In my build, aqua tcltk works smoothly from the command line without any eventloop handling in R. And I think this is a major improvement. Of course, still brakes R.app but at least ESS people not using quartz can work without problems. At this point, probably the hack is only needed for making the quartz device respond to events. It would be interesting to understand how they managed to make aqua tcltk work without a CFRunLoop in R (which your hack "runs"). stefano
the second: gfortran ? can you send me a version info.
Starting from gcc-3.5 the FORTRAN driver is called gfortran, not g95 or g77.
btw, it works fine for me with g95 which I suppose is gfortran, but I get g95 from HPC page not from apple.
I did not get it from Apple either, bur from the CVS pages of the FSF (which is where Gaurav gets it as well). I build my own, because (a) I want gcj, and (b) I want to make sure there are no shared libraries build for libgcc and friends in /usr/local
stefano On Dec 2, 2004, at 7:26 PM, Jan de Leeuw wrote:
I build a version of my hacked R-2.0.1 on Tiger (OX 10.4b2), using the included gcc-3.3 and a fresh g77 build from CVS (12/01). I also rebuild Carbon Emacs and Aqua Tcl/Tk. So far, things seem to work, including the resource fork hack. Remember, however, that Tiger will come with gcc-4.0 (and with gfortran replacing g77). I'll try to get a build using those going as well, because of the additional optimization possibilities. The g77 3.3.5 build has --disable-shared and single threading. [www:~] deleeuw% gcc -v Reading specs from /usr/libexec/gcc/darwin/ppc/3.3/specs Thread model: posix gcc version 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1804) [www:~] deleeuw% g77 -v Reading specs from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-apple-darwin8.0.0b2/3.3.5/specs Configured with: ../gcc-3.3-20041201/configure --enable-languages=c,c++,objc,f77,java Thread model: single gcc version 3.3.5 === Jan de Leeuw; Distinguished Professor and Chair, UCLA Department of Statistics; Editor: Journal of Multivariate Analysis, Journal of Statistical Software US mail: 8130 Math Sciences Bldg, Box 951554, Los Angeles, CA 90095-1554 phone (310)-825-9550; fax (310)-206-5658; email: deleeuw@stat.ucla.edu homepage: http://gifi.stat.ucla.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- No matter where you go, there you are. --- Buckaroo Banzai http://gifi.stat.ucla.edu/sounds/nomatter.au
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I am sure they used the unpublished API that can be used to let command line applications use the window server.
On Dec 2, 2004, at 1:45 PM, stefano iacus wrote:
It would be interesting to understand how they managed to make aqua tcltk work without a CFRunLoop in R (which your hack "runs").
=== Jan de Leeuw; Distinguished Professor and Chair, UCLA Department of Statistics; Editor: Journal of Multivariate Analysis, Journal of Statistical Software US mail: 8130 Math Sciences Bldg, Box 951554, Los Angeles, CA 90095-1554 phone (310)-825-9550; fax (310)-206-5658; email: deleeuw@stat.ucla.edu homepage: http://gifi.stat.ucla.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------- No matter where you go, there you are. --- Buckaroo Banzai http://gifi.stat.ucla.edu/sounds/nomatter.au