Message-ID: <D07AA9A5-4187-4275-A7D8-60A73FC69E35@stu.mmu.ac.uk>
Date: 2017-08-14T15:48:45Z
From: Oliver Clark
Subject: [R-meta] Weighted r values in a meta-analysis
In-Reply-To: <094421e1-a638-2c68-5ccc-f119a25f23b7@dewey.myzen.co.uk>
Dear Michael,
Thank you very much for your reply.
They did not specify this. From their procedure it seems they weighted before Z-transforming:
'All of the calculated r values were weighted by sample size to ensure that studies with more participants were given stronger weight (Hunter et al., 1982). Subsequently, weighted r values were transformed to Fisher?s Z values. '
A couple of examples from their paper are:
N = 90
r=.16,rw =.21
r =.15,rw =.20
They also mention the use of Zero (citing Rosenthal (1991) and Max coded (citing Shery 2001) r values but give no details of the equations used.
They provide r and rw values for each DV in each study (total n of 170). When I try to aggregate their rw values using the MAc agg function I get a few cases of r>1 which breaks escalc, which is also strange.
I?ve perhaps given more information than required, but sticking to the original question, does this weighting of r values seem like standard practice? Multiplying by n-3 for each r seems sensible but I don?t know what the denominator would be - using the mean of all ns doesn?t reproduce their values)
Best wishes,
Oliver
On 14 Aug 2017, at 16:28, Michael Dewey <lists at dewey.myzen.co.uk<mailto:lists at dewey.myzen.co.uk>> wrote:
Dear Oliver
Not sure if I understand exactly what happened here but the variance of a z-transformed r value is (n-3)^-1 so the weight is (n-3). Is that what they did?
On 14/08/2017 16:14, Oliver Clark wrote:
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone could think of a situation in which individual Pearson?s Rho values would be weighted by sample size in a meta-analysis?
If so, what the equation for doing so would be?
I am trying to reproduce a published meta-analysis and rw[i] values are given, but the equation and justification are not.
My guess was (r[i] * n[i]) / (mean(n[k]) but the numbers were different, and in fact gave r > 1.
Many thanks!
Oliver
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