-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Harmel [mailto:sim.harmel at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 15 March, 2021 17:31
To: Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (SP)
Cc: R meta
Subject: Re: [R-meta] Multivariate meta-analysis when "some studies" are multi-
outcome
Dear Prof. Viechtbauer,
Many thanks for your response. I found the following particularly helpful
(https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-sig-meta-analysis/2019-March/001484.html).
So, I went from my initial model: `rma.mv(d, V = SE^2, mods = ~factor(outcome)-1,
random= ~1|id, data = dat)`
to now:
`V <- clubSandwich::impute_covariance_matrix(vi = dat$SE^2, cluster = dat$id, r =
0.7)`
`rma.mv(d, V = V, mods = ~factor(outcome)-1, random= ~1|id, data = dat)`
However, what type of dependence is accounted for by the multilevel part (i.e.,
`random= ~1|id`), and what type of dependence is accounted for by including the
imputed variance-covariance matrix?
Specifically, in my data, all primary studies (n=52) are longitudinal, 15 of them
are multi-outcome, and almost all are multi-group treatments. Are all of these
types of dependence reasonably accounted for?
Many thanks for your consideration,
Simon
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 6:54 AM Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (SP)
<wolfgang.viechtbauer at maastrichtuniversity.nl> wrote:
Hi Simon,
I would suggest to search/browse the archives, as this kind of question has been
discussed at various points in the past. The archives can be found here:
https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-sig-meta-analysis/
There is no built-in search functionality for the archives, but one can restrict
search engines to conduct searches at particular sites. For example, if you do a
google search including
site:https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-sig-meta-analysis/
you should only get 'hits' from the mailing list archives. The same should work
with DuckDuckGo. Note sure about other engines.
Note that search engines index the archives at semi-regular intervals, so the most
recent posts will not show up this way, but those can be searched manually.
Best,
Wolfgang
-----Original Message-----
From: R-sig-meta-analysis [mailto:r-sig-meta-analysis-bounces at r-project.org] On
Behalf Of Simon Harmel
Sent: Saturday, 13 March, 2021 23:53
To: R meta
Subject: [R-meta] Multivariate meta-analysis when "some studies" are multi-
Dear All,
I'm conducting a meta-analysis where 15 out of 52 studies have used more
than one outcome variable. In addition, almost all studies include multiple
treatments.
A shortened version (i.e., without moderators) of our dataset appears below
(`*id`=study id; `d`=effect size; `SE` = standard error; `outcome`=outcome
variable index*).
I was wondering what would be the appropriate modeling options for such a
situation?
I appreciate your expertise and consideration,
Simon
*#-- R data and code:*
dat <- read.csv("https://raw.githubusercontent.com/hkil/m/master/tst.csv")
library(metafor)
rma.mv(d, V = SE^2, mods = ~factor(outcome)-1, random= ~1|id, data = dat)
## I'm assuming this would be an insufficient model