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[R-meta] Questions regarding REML and FE models and R^2 calculation in metafor

Hi Nevo,

Responses inline below.

Kind Regards,
James
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 1:37?AM Nevo Sagi <nevosagi8 at gmail.com> wrote:

            
I think this analogy doesn't follow. Conventional statistical analysis does
have observation-level error terms (i.e., level-1 error)--it's just
included by default as part of the model. In meta-analytic models, these
errors are not included unless explicitly specified.
Observation-level random effects here are used to capture heterogeneity of
effects across the experiments nested within a study. Considering that
you're interested in looking at moderators that vary across the experiments
reported in the same reference, it seems useful to attend to heterogeneity
at this level as well.
This is not correct. Including reference-level random effects captures
_between-reference_ variation (or heterogeneity) of effects.
I stand by my original recommendation to consider including
experiment-level heterogeneity here. Omitting the experiment-level
heterogeneity more-or-less corresponds to averaging the effect size
estimates together so that you have one effect per reference, which will
tend to conceal within-reference heterogeneity. In fact, if you are using a
model that does not include moderators / predictors that vary at the
experiment level (within reference), then the correspondence is exact.
Further details here: https://osf.io/preprints/metaarxiv/pw54r/