[R-meta] multivariate fixed-effect meta-analysis
Actually, I think you could fit a model with gls that does include
correlated sampling errors:
gls(yi ~ 0 + outcome,
weights = varFixed(~ vi),
correlation = corCompSymm(rho, ~ 1 | studyID, fixed = TRUE),
control = glsControl(sigma = 1),
data = data)
I've always wondered about whether it would make sense to fit a model
like this but allowing the sampling correlation to be estimated rather
than fixed.
James
On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 11:07 AM Luke Martinez <martinezlukerm at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi James, Yes exactly. However, obviously one can't replicate a meta-regression model like: rma.mv(yi ~ 0 + outcome, V = V_matrix, data = data) using nlme::gls() like: gls(yi~0 + outcome, weights = varFixed(~ vi), control= glsControl(sigma = 1), data = data) Because gls (and lme) doesn't allow a var-covariance matrix via their `correlation=` argument (?). That said, the following exactly match: rma.mv(yi ~ 0 + outcome, V = vi, data = data) gls(yi~0 + outcome, weights = varFixed(~ vi), control= glsControl(sigma = 1), data = data) Luke On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 10:47 AM James Pustejovsky <jepusto at gmail.com> wrote:
The term "multivariate" is used in several different ways in the meta-analysis (and mixed-effects models) literature. The metafor documentation usually uses it in the broadest sense of a model with more than one effect size estimate per independent sample. I think Luke was referring to the stricter sense of a model for a set of multi-variate effect size estimates (where each study contributes at most one effect size estimate to each of several distinct categories). More on disambiguation here: https://www.jepusto.com/what-does-multivariate-mean/ On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 7:45 AM Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (SP) <wolfgang.viechtbauer at maastrichtuniversity.nl> wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Luke Martinez [mailto:martinezlukerm at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 23 November, 2021 20:38 To: Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (SP) Cc: Filippo Gambarota; R meta Subject: Re: [R-meta] multivariate fixed-effect meta-analysis Dear Wolfgang, Strictly, the model is fixed-effects multivariate (i.e., MANOVA type) if Filippo has one effect size per outcome, right?
I don't know what you mean by that. If you only specify V and no random effects, one could call it a multivariate fixed-effects model, just like used for example in this chapter: https://www.metafor-project.org/doku.php/analyses:gleser2009 Whether one has one effect size per outcome or 20 is not relevant as long as V captures the covariance between the sampling errors of the estimates.
I mean to the extent that this is not the case, then will this model diverge from a fixed-effect multivariate model and become more like marginal models (i.e., nlme::gls() type)?
Again, I can't follow your reasoning here.
Thanks, Luke On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 1:22 PM Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (SP) <wolfgang.viechtbauer at maastrichtuniversity.nl> wrote:
With method="FE", 'random' is also ignored. You will see in the output that it
says "Variance Components: none".
If 'cov_mat' captures the sampling error covariances, then this could be argued
to be a fixed-effects version of a multivariate model.
Best, Wolfgang
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Behalf Of Filippo Gambarota Sent: Tuesday, 23 November, 2021 20:07 To: R meta Subject: [R-meta] multivariate fixed-effect meta-analysis Hi! I'm performing a multivariate meta-analysis with metafor, however I'm not sure how to obtain the fixed-effect version. Given that I have not enough data I'm not interested in estimating tau for each outcome and the correlation among outcomes but only taking into account the sampling error dependence. I'm using this function: ``` rma.mv( yi = eff_size, V = cov_mat, mods = ~ 0 + outcome, struct = "UN", random = ~ outcome|paper_id, method = "FE", data = data) ``` Of course, the struct argument is no more relevant (as the warning message said) but I'm wondering if the result is what I'm looking for because from the rma.mv documentation the method = "FE" is not mentioned combined with a multivariate parametrization. Thank you! -- Filippo Gambarota PhD Student - University of Padova Department of Developmental and Social Psychology Website: filippogambarota.netlify.app Research Group: Colab Psicostat
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