[R-meta] Metafor results tau^2 and R^2
I suppose that, at the risk of cluttering up the output, both could be reported. Then we can spend a happy few hours answering questions on this list about what the difference is. Michael
On 10/08/2020 12:52, Gerta Ruecker wrote:
Hi Wolfgang, Yes. I had read the Higgins 2002 paper a long time ago and knew that there was an R^2, but had forgotten how this was defined and what it meant. And *just because of that* my mistake arose: * R^2 is given by metafor next to I^2 and H^2 (by the way: who knows H^2?) * R^2 was 1 in the given example (and not larger) * I (probably like many others) didn't know Raudenbush's R^2. There are simply too many R^2s around (and too few letters in the alphabet ...). Best, Gerta Am 10.08.2020 um 12:20 schrieb Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (SP):
Hi Gerta, I would have figured the description in the parentheses (amount of heterogeneity accounted for) makes it clear that this is not the "R^2" from Higgins et al. (2002). help(print.rma) also documents the meaning of R^2 in the output. I wonder how many people actually know the "Higgins' R^2", given that I^2 has pretty much come out as the 'winner' from the 2002 paper that everybody reports. Best, Wolfgang
-----Original Message----- From: Dr. Gerta R?cker [mailto:ruecker at imbi.uni-freiburg.de] Sent: Sunday, 09 August, 2020 16:20 To: Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (SP); Dustin Lee; r-sig-meta-analysis at r- project.org Subject: Re: [R-meta] Metafor results tau^2 and R^2 Dear Wolfgang, Thank you for clarifying this. I really thought it was the Higgins R^2, as it stands in the neighborhood of I^2 and H^2 and also as in the given case also its value 1 is plausible (however, in fact , Higgins's R^2 would not be expressed in percent). I confused these two R^2s, and I might not be the only person confusing these. Do you see a way to avoid this misconception, for example by mentioning Raudenbush in the output text? Best, Gerta Am 09.08.2020 um 12:57 schrieb Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (SP):
Hi All, R^2 in the output of metafor is *not* R^2 from Higgins et al. (2002). It
is in fact a (pseudo) coefficient of determination that goes back to Raudenbush (1994). It estimates how much of the (total) heterogeneity is accounted for by the moderator(s) included in the model. If the *residual* amount of heterogeneity (i.e., the unaccounted for heterogeneity) is 0 after including the moderator(s) in the model, then R^2 is going to be 100% (i.e., all of the heterogeneity has been accounted for). One would in fact expect then that the moderator (or set of moderators) is significant -- it would actually be a bit odd if a moderator accounts for all of the heterogeneity, but fails to be significant (although one could probably construct an example where this is the case). And reporting R^2 is definitely useful, although should be cautiously interpreted given that R^2 can be rather inaccurate when k is small (as discussed in L?pez?L?pez et al., 2014).
Best, Wolfgang
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