Meaning of Corr of random-effects with a cross-level interaction
Dear Simon, A perfect correlation between random effect parameters indicates a problem. Note the failed convergence warning. Standardising ses makes things even worse: it yields a singular fit error. Removing the random slope of ses or the sector interaction solves the problem. i.e. the model runs and yields sensible output. Looking at the data, it seems like both math and ses have bounds. Ses even seems to have some data above its upper bound. The model assumes no bounds in the response variable. Maybe this is the cause of the problem. ggplot(hsb, aes(x = ses, y = math, colour = factor(sector))) + geom_point() Best regards, Thierry ir. Thierry Onkelinx Statisticus / Statistician Vlaamse Overheid / Government of Flanders INSTITUUT VOOR NATUUR- EN BOSONDERZOEK / RESEARCH INSTITUTE FOR NATURE AND FOREST Team Biometrie & Kwaliteitszorg / Team Biometrics & Quality Assurance thierry.onkelinx at inbo.be Havenlaan 88 bus 73, 1000 Brussel www.inbo.be /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// To call in the statistician after the experiment is done may be no more than asking him to perform a post-mortem examination: he may be able to say what the experiment died of. ~ Sir Ronald Aylmer Fisher The plural of anecdote is not data. ~ Roger Brinner The combination of some data and an aching desire for an answer does not ensure that a reasonable answer can be extracted from a given body of data. ~ John Tukey /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// <https://www.inbo.be> Op do 24 sep. 2020 om 18:39 schreef Simon Harmel <sim.harmel at gmail.com>:
Dear All,
I had a quick question. I have a cross-level interaction in my model below
(ses*sector). My cluster-level predictor "sector" is a binary variable
(0=Public, 1=Private). My level-1 predictor is numeric.
QUESTION: The `Corr = 1` is indicating the correlation between
intercepts and slopes across BOTH public & private sectors (like their
average) OR something else?
hsb <- read.csv('
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/rnorouzian/e/master/hsb.csv')
summary(lmer(math ~ ses*sector + (ses|sch.id), data = hsb))
Random effects:
Groups Name Variance Std.Dev. Corr
sch.id (Intercept) 3.82107 1.9548
ses 0.07587 0.2754 1.00
Residual 36.78760 6.0653
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