Testing overdispersion Gamma glmer
------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 11:45:24 +0100 From: Sophie Waegebaert <sophie.waegebaert at gmail.com> To: r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org Subject: [R-sig-ME] Testing overdispersion Gamma glmer Message-ID: <CAGH66HCiv5jiad+_DM+HP91xP3GOHGa1jft8E=KYSJR=i_RYmQ at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello, I want to compare mean trip duration (length.in.hours) across treatment conditions and colonies. I have 3 colonies and 2 treatments. So, one half of a colony gets a DWV treatment and the other half a control treatment. When a histogram is made, it is clear that the data is skewed to the rigth. So, I am using a Gamma distribution. This is the model: fit_length = glmer(length.in.hours~treatment*colony + (1|RFID), family = Gamma(link = "log"), data = datashort) I use the log link and not the identity link, because the AIC is lower. RFID is the code used for each subject in the colonies. I want to test for the overdispersion assumption by using the following code:
datashort$obs = factor(1:nrow(datashort))> fit_length_obs = glmer(length.in.hours~treatment*colony + (1|RFID) + (1|obs), family = Gamma(link = "log"), data = datashort) AIC(fit_length, fit_length_obs) df AIC
fit_length 8 5646.758 fit_length_obs 9 -74390.105 There is a clear difference between the AIC values, but I was wondering wether -74390 is a realistic value? Is it not very low? Or am I using the wrong method to control for overdispersion? Thank you for some help! Kind regards, Sophie Sophie, A Gamma GLM(M) cannot be overdispersed. The parameter r in the variance expression of a Gamma GLM acts like the sigma parameter in linear regression. A Poisson GLM can be overdispersed because the variance equals the mean. It has no extra parameter to correct for any extra variation. Same holds for a binomial (as in binomial..not Bernoulli). As to why the model with the observation level random effect is much better...well it acts like a latent variable. Kind regards, Alain