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Date: 2018-12-21T15:29:49Z
From: Thierry Onkelinx
Subject: convergence
In-Reply-To: <CAEA998j8Gitb5iNdfSFbJ+M9Om6sSkMRLoj+Bz8ekCYzceTfcA@mail.gmail.com>

Quasi complete separation is one of the things that might cause the
convergence problems. You'll need to investigate whether any combination of
your covariates causes (quasi) complete separation. If it is in the fixed
effect, you'll need to simplify the model. If it is a single random effect
level, then you can get away with it.

ir. Thierry Onkelinx
Statisticus / Statistician

Vlaamse Overheid / Government of Flanders
INSTITUUT VOOR NATUUR- EN BOSONDERZOEK / RESEARCH INSTITUTE FOR NATURE AND
FOREST
Team Biometrie & Kwaliteitszorg / Team Biometrics & Quality Assurance
thierry.onkelinx at inbo.be
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Op vr 21 dec. 2018 om 16:22 schreef Souheyla GHEBGHOUB <
souheyla.ghebghoub at gmail.com>:

> Update on context:
> Aim: estimating the association between (1) responses accuracy and (2)
> time, groups, and 7 word-covariates.
>
> I included 2 covariates in the interactions with group & Time.
> Number of observations : 5800
>
> glmer(
>   *Response* ~ Characters + Band_freq + Imageability + Cognateness +
> Syllables + *Group*Time*PoS* + *Group*Time*Verbal_freq *
> + (Time|Subject) + (Time| Word),
> glmerControl(optimizer="bobyqa", optCtrl = list(maxfun = 2e5)), data =
> written.Form.data
>   family = 'binomial'
>
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 14:46, Souheyla GHEBGHOUB <
> souheyla.ghebghoub at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Should I "ignore" or get "too concerned" about this warning?
> >
> > Model failed to converge with max|grad| = 0.00542358 (tol = 0.001,
> > component 1)
> >
>
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