anova() and the difference between (x | y) and (1 | y:x) in lme4
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:38:38AM -0400, Ben Bolker wrote:
Thanks Tierry. I would add: (1) for what it's worth, lme offers an intermediate model (compound symmetry), which allows for homogeneous but _negative_ within-group correlation ((1|var1:var2) only allows for non-negative within-group correlation)
OK, good to know for the future.
(2) the 'unstructured' (var1|var2) and 'grouped/positive compound symmetry' models (1|var1:var2) are in principle nested (all off-diagonals equal to zero, all diagonals identical -> simpler model), so you should be able to use a likelihood ratio test/ANOVA to test.
Great, thanks!
(3) your max|grad| convergence warnings are probably false positives; I would try scaling¢ring your continuous predictors to see if that makes the eigenvalue warnings go away.
OK, will do. Thanks again!