Doubt about including random effects or not
On 13-11-11 07:45 AM, V. Coudrain wrote:
Dear all, I collected insects in 30 sites, 15 sites each with a level of isolation and all 30 sites are arranged along a gradient of habitat amount. Each insect species has a specialization value. I would like to test if specialization increases along the gradient of habitat and differs between isolation level. The number of insect species and individuals differ largely between sites. I have two doubts: should I specify site as a random variable? Should I specify insect abundance as an offset? The model I thought about: lme(specialization~Isolation*habitat amount + offset(insect abundance) , random~1|Site) However I am not sure about using site as a random effect and specifically if it makes sense to mix offset and random effect. Thank you! Val?rie Coudrain
You can mix offsets and random effects: see e.g. the Owls example at https://groups.nceas.ucsb.edu/non-linear-modeling/projects (although this is also zero-inflated, which adds an additional level of complexity you don't need). A couple of comments though: * I don't quite understand why you don't just calculate average specialization per site; presumably Isolation and habitat amount are site-level covariates? If you have different sample sizes per site, you could calculate the mean and std. dev. of specialization and use the weights= argument to inverse-variance weight ... (see Murtaugh 2007 _Ecology_ for arguments in favor of aggregating when analyzing nested designs). (It's possible that one of your covariates varies within site, which would make this aggregation infeasible.) * I also don't quite understand why you expect specialization to be directly proportional to abundance? Is abundance a species:site-level covariate, or an overall (site-level) covariate (I think the latter)? I would consider just putting insect abundance in as a covariate (i.e. allow for some dependence, don't require direct proportionality)... ? Ben Bolker