Likelihood drops on adding random effect
Look at the values of the coefficients and standard deviations that you are "converging" to. Your intercept is -9.28, which, with a binomial family, corresponds to probabilities below 1e-4. With icfac = fem the linear predictor is -9.28 - 4.76 = -14.04 corresponding to a probability of 8e-07. You are going to need to look at the data and the proportions of positives for different levels of icfac to see what would make sense. This problem will create a very ill-defined likelihood surface because the fitted values will lose sensitivity to the parameters when the probabilities are so extreme. If you start extreme values you will never be able to converge.
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Murray Jorgensen <maj at waikato.ac.nz> wrote:
PS ?I also tried start = list( fixef = c( -9.28405, ?2.81300, -4.75935, ?2.91080), ? ? ? ?ST = c(0, 8.29931, 2.56368e-06, ?0.00000)) and start = list( fixef = list( -9.28405, ?2.81300, -4.75935, ?2.91080), ? ? ? ST = list(0, 8.29931, 2.56368e-06, ?0.00000)) to no avail.
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