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lme4, cloglog vs. binomial link

On Jun 4, 2012, at 13:07 , Tibor Kiss wrote:

            
No, cloglog is asymmetric, so it will make a difference which outcome is considered success, but there is no mathematical reason to choose between them. In survival data, the cloglog comes out of the proportional hazards model when you have death within a fixed time period as the response (exact date of death not recorded). In that case, death is "success" (!); hopefully, it is the least likely outcome, but it might not be. If cloglog is just used as a generic link function, then no such logic applies.
No. The scales are different. At the very least, you need to somehow compare it to the fixed effects on the same scale.
(Or, equivalently, the deviance). The cloglog link model seems to give the worse fit to data.
First, is that desirable, and why? The only logic, that I can think of, is that you want to get the fixed-effect part of the model right, so that the error is not mistakenly taken as part of the random variation.