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Same variable as both fixed and random

Dear Thierry,

I completely agree with you.  There is a distinction between treating
year continuously and as a factor.

That is why I made the point about DegreeDays.  If DegreeDays were not
in the model, one might hypothesize that year would pick up some time
trends in climate change, but if climate change is itself directly
measured and in the model, than it would seem year is some general
proxy for any other effects that vary across years, and in that sense,
I do not know that imposing a linear relationship is sensible, leaving
the choice of treating it as a factor or as a random effect.

Thanks for the examples, they are an excellent way to show the point.

Sincerely,

Josh





On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 8:39 PM, ONKELINX, Thierry
<Thierry.ONKELINX at inbo.be> wrote: