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singular convergence with lmer()

Finally I have reproduced the crash. Before running lme4 I log-transform the response of the original dataset in R. Attached are the 
original dataset and the R code. 


library(lme4)
setwd("...") 

dat <- read.csv("zzz.csv", header=TRUE, na.strings = "", 
??? colClasses=c("factor", "factor","factor","factor","numeric"))
str(dat)

??? dat$Operator <- dat$Operator:dat$Day
??? dat$Part <- dat$Sample
??? dat$y <- log10(dat$Response)
??? dat <- droplevels(subset(dat, subset= !is.na(dat$y)))

lmer(y ~ (1|Operator)+(1|Part)+(1|Part:Operator),? data=dat)



The dataset "zzz.csv" : 


NumDos Day Operator Sample Response 
2010_0402 1 1 1 5.3 
2010_0402 1 1 1 5 
2010_0402 1 1 2 35.8 
2010_0402 1 1 2 34.3 
2010_0402 1 1 3 61.1 
2010_0402 1 1 3 61.6 
2010_0402 1 1 4 130.9 
2010_0402 1 1 4 135.1 
2010_0402 1 1 5 206.3 
2010_0402 1 1 5 195.2 
2010_0402 1 1 6 479.7 
2010_0402 1 1 6 462.2 
2010_0402 1 1 7 780.9 
2010_0402 1 1 7 818.2 
2010_0402 1 1 8 1522.9 
2010_0402 1 1 8 1549.8 
2010_0402 1 1 9 2443.8 
2010_0402 1 1 9 3150.9 
2010_0402 1 1 10 5406.3 
2010_0402 1 1 10 5304.8 
2010_0402 1 1 11 6686.4 
2010_0402 1 1 11 6536.1 
2010_0402 1 1 12 9864.9 
2010_0402 1 1 12 9448 
2010_0402 1 2 1 5.2 
2010_0402 1 2 1 5.2 
2010_0402 1 2 2 36 
2010_0402 1 2 2 37 
2010_0402 1 2 3 67.3 
2010_0402 1 2 3 69.2 
2010_0402 1 2 4 146.3 
2010_0402 1 2 4 138.9 
2010_0402 1 2 5 210.4 
2010_0402 1 2 5 210.8 
2010_0402 1 2 6 534.9 
2010_0402 1 2 6 506.1 
2010_0402 1 2 7 757.2 
2010_0402 1 2 7 813.2 
2010_0402 1 2 8 1659.9 
2010_0402 1 2 8 1790.3 
2010_0402 1 2 9 3478.3 
2010_0402 1 2 9 3469.4 
2010_0402 1 2 10 6377.7 
2010_0402 1 2 10 5758.9 
2010_0402 1 2 11 8258.3 
2010_0402 1 2 11 7317.2 
2010_0402 1 2 12 10461 
2010_0402 1 2 12 10155.5 
2010_0402 2 1 1 4.9 
2010_0402 2 1 1 5.2 
2010_0402 2 1 2 35 
2010_0402 2 1 2 31 
2010_0402 2 1 3 57.9 
2010_0402 2 1 3 60.1 
2010_0402 2 1 4 133.8 
2010_0402 2 1 4 136.9 
2010_0402 2 1 5 173.7 
2010_0402 2 1 5 179.9 
2010_0402 2 1 6 457.2 
2010_0402 2 1 6 489.8 
2010_0402 2 1 7 773.9 
2010_0402 2 1 7 799.2 
2010_0402 2 1 8 1435.1 
2010_0402 2 1 8 1536.5 
2010_0402 2 1 9 3714.1 
2010_0402 2 1 9 3880.5 
2010_0402 2 1 10 5327.9 
2010_0402 2 1 10 5548.3 
2010_0402 2 1 11 7548.1 
2010_0402 2 1 11 7206.5 
2010_0402 2 1 12 9947.5 
2010_0402 2 1 12 10477.1 
2010_0402 2 2 1 5.7 
2010_0402 2 2 1 5.4 
2010_0402 2 2 2 37.6 
2010_0402 2 2 2 37.3 
2010_0402 2 2 3 66.2 
2010_0402 2 2 3 51.6 
2010_0402 2 2 4 121.3 
2010_0402 2 2 4 139.8 
2010_0402 2 2 5 199 
2010_0402 2 2 5 231.7 
2010_0402 2 2 6 514.7 
2010_0402 2 2 6 605.7 
2010_0402 2 2 7 856.6 
2010_0402 2 2 7 867.6 
2010_0402 2 2 8 1539.2 
2010_0402 2 2 8 1691.8 
2010_0402 2 2 9 4337.8 
2010_0402 2 2 9 4744.2 
2010_0402 2 2 10 8121.6 
2010_0402 2 2 10 6447.1 
2010_0402 2 2 11 8577 
2010_0402 2 2 11 8148.4 
2010_0402 2 2 12 13747.7 
2010_0402 2 2 12 12335 
2010_0402 3 1 1 4.8 
2010_0402 3 1 1 4.8 
2010_0402 3 1 2 36.6 
2010_0402 3 1 2 35.6 
2010_0402 3 1 3 69.3 
2010_0402 3 1 3 70.6 
2010_0402 3 1 4 147.3 
2010_0402 3 1 4 141.4 
2010_0402 3 1 5 190.9 
2010_0402 3 1 5 162.5 
2010_0402 3 1 6 525.6 
2010_0402 3 1 6 488.7 
2010_0402 3 1 7 885.3 
2010_0402 3 1 7 866.9 
2010_0402 3 1 8 1590.9 
2010_0402 3 1 8 1662.9 
2010_0402 3 1 9 4146.9 
2010_0402 3 1 9 4962.8 
2010_0402 3 1 10 5005.8 
2010_0402 3 1 10 5787.6 
2010_0402 3 1 11 7605.6 
2010_0402 3 1 11 7996.6 
2010_0402 3 1 12 10513.9 
2010_0402 3 1 12 11256.8 
2010_0402 3 2 1 5.4 
2010_0402 3 2 1 5.4 
2010_0402 3 2 2 34.8 
2010_0402 3 2 2 37.6 
2010_0402 3 2 3 63.7 
2010_0402 3 2 3 65.4 
2010_0402 3 2 4 149.5 
2010_0402 3 2 4 152.5 
2010_0402 3 2 5 201.4 
2010_0402 3 2 5 210.9 
2010_0402 3 2 6 470 
2010_0402 3 2 6 459.5 
2010_0402 3 2 7 885.3 
2010_0402 3 2 7 829 
2010_0402 3 2 8 1781.6 
2010_0402 3 2 8 1555.1 
2010_0402 3 2 9 4215.3 
2010_0402 3 2 9 3966.9 
2010_0402 3 2 10 5063.7 
2010_0402 3 2 10 5365.4 
2010_0402 3 2 11 7441.6 
2010_0402 3 2 11 7592.1 
2010_0402 3 2 12 10769.1 
2010_0402 3 2 12 10955.4 
2010_0402 5 1 1 6 
2010_0402 5 1 1 5.8 
2010_0402 5 1 2 38.8 
2010_0402 5 1 2 38.5 
2010_0402 5 1 3 68.4 
2010_0402 5 1 3 67.4 
2010_0402 5 1 4 149.8 
2010_0402 5 1 4 158.2 
2010_0402 5 1 5 193.1 
2010_0402 5 1 5 190.6 
2010_0402 5 1 6 478.6 
2010_0402 5 1 6 499.9 
2010_0402 5 1 7 914 
2010_0402 5 1 7 897.2 
2010_0402 5 1 8 1543.3 
2010_0402 5 1 8 1387.3 
2010_0402 5 1 9 3574.1 
2010_0402 5 1 9 3640.9 
2010_0402 5 1 10 5371.4 
2010_0402 5 1 10 5583.8 
2010_0402 5 1 11 8196.4 
2010_0402 5 1 11 7754.8 
2010_0402 5 1 12 10663 
2010_0402 5 1 12 12536.7 
2010_0402 5 2 1 6.7 
2010_0402 5 2 1 6.2 
2010_0402 5 2 2 38.9 
2010_0402 5 2 2 40.4 
2010_0402 5 2 3 65.9 
2010_0402 5 2 3 65.2 
2010_0402 5 2 4 139.8 
2010_0402 5 2 4 137.3 
2010_0402 5 2 5 231.3 
2010_0402 5 2 5 217.4 
2010_0402 5 2 6 540.9 
2010_0402 5 2 6 500.9 
2010_0402 5 2 7 807.5 
2010_0402 5 2 7 866.3 
2010_0402 5 2 8 1539.8 
2010_0402 5 2 8 1531.4 
2010_0402 5 2 9 3556.9 
2010_0402 5 2 9 3328.2 
2010_0402 5 2 10 5113.4 
2010_0402 5 2 10 5553.9 
2010_0402 5 2 11 7782.7 
2010_0402 5 2 11 6404.3 
2010_0402 5 2 12 9499.8 
2010_0402 5 2 12 9876.5 



________________________________
 De?: Ben Bolker <bbolker at gmail.com>
??: r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org 
Envoy? le : Dimanche 8 juillet 2012 21h58
Objet?: Re: [R-sig-ME] singular convergence with lmer()
 
laurent stephane <laurent_step at ...> writes:
? This warning emerges from the nlminb optimizer used in the guts
of lme4, and I don't think there's much you can do to suppress it
or change the behavior of nlminb to avoid it.? The best you could
do would be to use other packages (SAS, other versions of lme4 or
nlme, etc.) to see if the correct answer was achieved despite the
warning.

? Ben Bolker

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