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Message-ID: <538DCC9F-9DC2-477C-AB2F-A6B828C72C23@kagi.com>
Date: 2008-05-01T21:24:13Z
From: Ken Beath
Subject: random effects specification
In-Reply-To: <87skx2taqc.fsf@patagonia.sebmags.homelinux.org>

On 01/05/2008, at 11:28 PM, Sebastian P. Luque wrote:

>
> which I presume is due to the fact that the data are unreplicated,
> i.e. individuals get each treatment only once.

No. Due to not having a random component for id in the simulated data.

Try

rid <- rep(rnorm(20),each=3)
dta$n <- dta$n+rid

Then refit the model.

>
> Are there any gotchas in
> the interpretation of the results after this warning?
>
>

Probably not, but with real data I would remove the random effect from  
the model as it is 0.

Ken