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Autoregressive covariance structure for lme object and R/SAS differences in model output

Dear Andreas,

Write down the equation of the lme model and the SAS model and look for
differences in that. It is likely that both models look at a different kind
of correlation. lme() models the correlation in the residuals WITHIN the
same group as defined by the random effect levels. If I recall correctly
SAS has correlation structures for what they call the G-side and the
R-side. You need to ask your colleagues how SAS handles the correlation.

Best regards,

Thierry

ir. Thierry Onkelinx
Instituut voor natuur- en bosonderzoek / Research Institute for Nature and
Forest
team Biometrie & Kwaliteitszorg / team Biometrics & Quality Assurance
Kliniekstraat 25
1070 Anderlecht
Belgium

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2015-02-17 15:51 GMT+01:00 Andreas Nord <andreas.nord at biol.lu.se>: