question regarding predictor variable
You have conditioned on total of fish measured in each length bin across the two tow type so you could analyse total catch as a loglinear GLMM independently of the analysis of proportion in 10 min tows relative to 15 min tows. I gather you want to jointly analyse proportions and total catch because of any possible dependency (e.g. indicated by a positive correlation) between the pair random effects from each analysis. You could estimate both sets of random effects and plot them one against the other to see if there is a significant correlation. If there is its not easy to see how you could do the appropriate MV GLMM analysis because of the different lengths of the two DVs.
"Sally A. Roman" <saroman at vims.edu <mailto:saroman at vims.edu> > wrote:
I have a dataset I am working with to model the proportion of fish caught at length. I have paired observations (n=96). The paired observations consist of a 10 minute tow and a 15 minute tow. Data collected are length measurements in 1 mm intervals, number of fish at length, and total catch (number of baskets) for each tow. The traditional approach to model this type of data is to use a logistic regression to model the proportion caught at length in the 10 min to the total catch at length in both tows in a pair and then have the pair as the random effect. Traditional fixed effects are length (L) and length^2 (L2). I would like to include total catch in the model, but am struggling with how to include the variable because there is a total catch record for each tow. I was hoping for some guidance on if it is appropriate to include total catch for both tows or for one of the tows, if total catch between both tows is correlated as a continuous variable. Dr Steven G. Candy Director/Consultant SCANDY STATISTICAL MODELLING PTY LTD (ABN: 83 601 268 419) 70 Burwood Drive Blackmans Bay, TASMANIA, Australia 7052 Mobile: (61) 0439284983