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From: R-sig-mixed-models [mailto:r-sig-mixed-models-bounces at r-
project.org] On Behalf Of Maciej Beresewicz
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 18:16
To: r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R-sig-ME] lme function - fixed sigma - inconsistent results
with sae and proc mixed results
Dear Viechtbauer,
Thanks! So it means that there is difference in terms of REML estimation.
On 28 Jun 2016, at 17:29, Viechtbauer Wolfgang (STAT)
<wolfgang.viechtbauer at maastrichtuniversity.nl> wrote:
Since when does lme() in R have the 'sigma' control argument? Ah, since
But apparently this is not giving the right results here. Another
library(sae)
library(metafor)
data(milk)
milk$var <- milk$SD^2
res <- rma(yi ~ as.factor(MajorArea), var, data=milk)
res
res$tau2
Yields:
Mixed-Effects Model (k = 43; tau^2 estimator: REML)
tau^2 (estimated amount of residual heterogeneity): 0.0185 (SE =
tau (square root of estimated tau^2 value): 0.1362
I^2 (residual heterogeneity / unaccounted variability): 55.21%
H^2 (unaccounted variability / sampling variability): 2.23
R^2 (amount of heterogeneity accounted for): 65.85%
Test for Residual Heterogeneity:
QE(df = 39) = 86.1840, p-val < .0001
Test of Moderators (coefficient(s) 2,3,4):
QM(df = 3) = 46.5699, p-val < .0001
Model Results:
estimate se zval pval ci.lb
intrcpt 0.9682 0.0694 13.9585 <.0001 0.8322
as.factor(MajorArea)2 0.1328 0.1030 1.2891 0.1974 -0.0691
as.factor(MajorArea)3 0.2269 0.0923 2.4580 0.0140 0.0460
as.factor(MajorArea)4 -0.2413 0.0816 -2.9565 0.0031 -0.4013 -
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Signif. codes: 0 '***' 0.001 '**' 0.01 '*' 0.05 '.' 0.1 ' ' 1
[1] 0.01854996
Same as in 'sae' (rounded to 6 decimals) and SAS.
Not a huge difference to lme(), but larger than one would expect due to
If you switch to method="ML" (for both lme() and rma()), then you get
0.1245693^2 = 0.01551751 for lme() and 0.0155174 for rma(), so that's
basically the same.
Best,
Wolfgang
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-----Original Message-----
From: R-sig-mixed-models [mailto:r-sig-mixed-models-bounces at r-
project.org] On Behalf Of Maciej Beresewicz
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 16:02
To: r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org
Subject: [R-sig-ME] lme function - fixed sigma - inconsistent results
with sae and proc mixed results
I would like to estimate Fay-Herriot class models in nlme (small area
models). Basically, these models have fixed random error which is
to be known from sample survey (sampling error). Hence, the model I
like to specify should have sigma = 1 (it is not estimated).
I have checked new version nlme package (3.1-128) however results are
different from those from sae package and proc mixed when it comes to
fitting a small area model (in particular a Fay-Herriot area model).
I am not sure why these results differ. They should be the same
sae::eblupFH fits s mixed model with one random effect and fixed
variance).
I would be grateful for any help on this matter. Please find the codes
highlight the problem below.
##############################
## preparation
##############################
library(sae)
library(nlme)
data(milk)
milk$var <- milk$SD^2
##############################
### nlme results
##############################
m2 <- lme(fixed = yi ~ as.factor(MajorArea),
random = ~ 1 | SmallArea,
control = lmeControl(sigma = 1,
apVar = T),
weights = varFixed(~var),
data = milk)
## variance (not the same as in sae and proc mixed)
0.1332918^2 = 0.0177667
Linear mixed-effects model fit by REML
Data: milk
AIC BIC logLik
-10.69175 -2.373943 10.34588
Random effects:
Formula: ~1 | SmallArea
(Intercept) Residual
StdDev: 0.1332918 1
Variance function:
Structure: fixed weights
Formula: ~var
Fixed effects: yi ~ as.factor(MajorArea)
Value Std.Error DF t-value p-value
(Intercept) 0.9680768 0.06849017 39 14.134537 0.0000
as.factor(MajorArea)2 0.1316132 0.10183884 39 1.292367 0.2038
as.factor(MajorArea)3 0.2269008 0.09126952 39 2.486053 0.0173
as.factor(MajorArea)4 -0.2415905 0.08058755 39 -2.997863 0.0047
##############################
### results based on sae package
##############################
library(sae)
va <- eblupFH(formula = yi ~ as.factor(MajorArea), vardir = var, data
$method
[1] "REML"
$convergence
[1] TRUE
$iterations
[1] 4
$estcoef
beta std.error tvalue pvalue
(Intercept) 0.9681890 0.06936208 13.958476 2.793443e-44
as.factor(MajorArea)2 0.1327801 0.10300072 1.289119 1.973569e-01
as.factor(MajorArea)3 0.2269462 0.09232981 2.457995 1.397151e-02
as.factor(MajorArea)4 -0.2413011 0.08161707 -2.956503 3.111496e-03
$refvar
[1] 0.01855022
$goodness
loglike AIC BIC KIC AICc AICb1
AICb2 KICc
12.677478 -15.354956 -6.548956 -10.354956 NA NA
NA NA
KICb1 KICb2 nBootstrap
NA NA 0.000000
##############################
### Proc mixed results are consistent with sae
##############################
proc SmallArea data= milk order=data method=reml;
class SmallArea;
weight var;
model y= MajorArea2 MajorArea3 MajorArea4 / cl solution
random SmallArea;
parms (1) (1) / hold=2;
run;
## Covariance Parameter Estimates
Cov Parm Estimate
SmallArea 0.01855
Residual 1.0000
### fixed effects
Intercept 0.9682
majorarea2 0.1328
majorarea3 0.2269
majorarea3 -0.2413
Best regards,
Maciej