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significance test of random and fixed effects in (quasi) poisson GLMM

I guess the overdispersion parameter is equivalent to the sigma (within-group residual variance), which can be retrieved simply typing 'model$sigma' where 'model' is a glmmPQL object. I ran some analysis with alternatives models based on GAM and the estimate is coherent with the overdispersion parameter returned by them. Just remember that the phi (overdispersion parameter) is equal to sigma^2.
The estimates from glmmPQL seem coherent both in my analysis on real data and from simulations.
 
As already reported, glmmPQL always estimates a sigma (overdispersion) both with family 'poisson' or 'quasipoisson'. I think this is a problem related to the iterative calls to 'lme' for simple linear mixed models, where the sigma is not a fixed parameter as in Poisson models.
 
Regards,

Antonio Gasparrini
Public and Environmental Health Research Unit (PEHRU)
London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:44:24 +0100
From: Vincent Kint <Vincent.Kint at ees.kuleuven.be>
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Subject: Re: [R-sig-ME] significance test of random and fixed effects
in(quasi) poisson GLMM
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Dear Antonio and list members,

Thanks for the reply. The problem with quasi GLMM in lme4 seems to have been reported several times. As you suggested, I tried with glmmPQL, but I don't find how to retreive the overdispersion factor (it is not in the summary). Also, I don't see any difference using poisson or quasipoisson. Does that mean that this method is correcting for overdispersion in both cases?

Further suggestions on how to test fixed and radom factors in GLMMs are still welcome.

Regards,
Vincent