On what basis one of the predictors/fixed factors should be included in a random slope model?
You may want to check out the response to that paper, which was pretty well received: http://arxiv.org/abs/1506.04967 Somewhat unconventionally, here is a facebook thread where a subset of the authors of each paper talked about it: https://www.facebook.com/alex.b.fine.9/posts/10102858621451518 A couple quick notes: 1. I think the basic consensus is that, when using LMMs for hypothesis testing, you must use the random effects to do what virtually every other framework for hypothesis testing does, which is account for sources of variation that may lead to Type I error. So if "gender" is an experimental manipulation that might vary depending on item, you should include it. 2. Does it make sense to have a by-speaker random slope for gender? This implies that a given speaker could have either gender. Without getting too far afield, I doubt this was indeed the case in your design. In the terminology of the Barr et al. paper, a by-speaker random slope for gender is not "justified by the design". 3. Do not trust or report a model with an error warning.
On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Saudi Sadiq <ss1272 at york.ac.uk> wrote:
I read this paper 'Random effects structure for confirmatory hypothesis testing: Keep it maximal' by Barr, Levy, Scheepers and Tily (2013) and enjoyed it. I tried, then, to keep it maximal with a dataset I am analysing but I am facing a problem (this may look naive). I hope you will help me solve it. The dataset includes 9 predictors and I am using R. The model I ran is: modle1<- glmer(convergence ~ gender + age.group +education+residence+sound_before+sound_after+ part.of.speech + grammatical.gender + style + (1|speaker) + (1|item), data = qaaf, family='binomial', control = glmerControl(optimizer = "bobyqa"), nAGQ = 1) As you see, I have two random factors (speaker and item). Q1: On what basis one of the predictors/fixed factors should be included in a random slope model? The model with random slopes could be like model2 or model3: modle2<- glmer(convergence ~ gender + age.group +education+residence+sound_before+sound_after+ part.of.speech + grammatical.gender + style + (1+gender|speaker) + (1+education|item), data = qaaf, family='binomial', control = glmerControl(optimizer = "bobyqa"), nAGQ = 1) modle3<- glmer(convergence ~ gender + age.group +education+residence+sound_before+sound_after+ part.of.speech + grammatical.gender + style + (1+residence|speaker) + (1+residence|item), data = qaaf, family='binomial', control = glmerControl(optimizer = "bobyqa"), nAGQ = 1) Model2 has gender and education included in the random slope and model3 has residence alone. Q2: Should the fixed factor used in a random slope model be the same (as in model3)? Q3: If it is okay for such a model to have two fixed factors (as in model2) or just one (as inmodel3), which is better? Q4: What should be done if the model does not converge with a random slope, is there a way to make it work? Or can i trus and report the results of the model even if there is a warning message? Best regards -- Saudi Sadiq, Assistant Lecturer, English Department, Faculty of Al-Alsun,Minia University, Minia City, Egypt & PhD Student, Language and Linguistic Science Department, University of York, York, North Yorkshire, UK, YO10 5DD http://york.academia.edu/SaudiSadiq https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Saudi_Sadiq Certified Translator by Egyptian Translation Association (Egyta) <http://www.egyta.com/> Certified Interpreter by Pearl Linguistics <http://www.pearllinguistics.com/> Verified Teacher at https://lingos.co/users/saudi-sadiq Verified Teacher at https://www.firsttutors.com/uk/languages/teacher/saudi.arabic.english [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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