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Comparison of crossed ranom effects: lmer vs. MCMCglmm

Hello,

I read that lmer can handle independent (often labelled as crossed) random effets in mixed models. It seems to be possible with MCMCglmm as long as groups for the random effects are uniquely labelled. I use the "Penicllin" data in the lme4-package to compare both approaches:

library(lme4)
library(MCMCglmm)

str(Penicillin)
attach(Penicillin)

ml <- lmer(diameter~ 1 + (1|plate)+ (1|sample))
summary(ml)

mcmc <- MCMCglmm(diameter~ 1, random=~ plate + sample,verbose=F, nitt=110000,burn=10000,thin=10,data=Penicillin)
summary(mcmc)

Why are the result for the plate-variance differ by a large amount? Is it because MCMCglmm applies Gibbs sampling? Or is MCMCglmm doing something else here, instead of fitting independent random effects?


Best regards,


Linus Holtermann
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