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interpreting random intercepts when no fixed intercept?present

Hello,
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 04:10:59PM +0000, Ben Bolker wrote:
?   Hmmm.  I think in order to answer this question I'd have to
? figure out what model.matrix() is doing when we use
? [ordered factor]+0 in a formula.  I thought I knew but now
? I don't think I do ...

According to its code, it also uses the default contrasts, but for
ordered factor it is contr.poly and not contr.treatment.

? > d <- data.frame(f=ordered(rep(1:5,10)),y=runif(50))
? > options(digits=3)
? > coef(lm(y~f,data=d))
? (Intercept)         f.L         f.Q         f.C         f^4 
?       0.525      -0.064       0.154       0.144      -0.116 
? > coef(lm(y~f+0,data=d))
?    f1    f2    f3    f4    f5 
? 0.589 0.651 0.360 0.428 0.599 
? > coef(lm(y~f,data=d,contrasts=list(f=contr.treatment)))
? (Intercept)          f2          f3          f4          f5 
?      0.5885      0.0625     -0.2286     -0.1602      0.0101 

With your example:
(Intercept)         f.L         f.Q         f.C         f^4 
     0.4936     -0.0775     -0.1209      0.0614     -0.0233
f1    f2    f3    f4    f5 
0.456 0.600 0.542 0.474 0.397
(Intercept)         f.L         f.Q         f.C         f^4 
     0.4936     -0.0775     -0.1209      0.0614     -0.0233
f1    f2    f3    f4    f5 
0.456 0.600 0.542 0.474 0.397 

I imagine the default choice of contr.poly is to have this separation
between linear, quadratic... terms (orthogonal polynomials?), building
contrasts assuming equally-spaced X values...

?  (It would probably be better to use an example with a clear
? linear and quadratic term and nothing else, for clarity)

?   I think the answer to this is going to have to involve more
? searching into how model.matrix() parameterizes these models.
? Basically, once you know how the fixed effects are parameterized,
? you can interpret what it means to add a zero-mean random-effects
? offset to it ...   

Generally, would it mean by forcing a null fixed intercept means that
we assume that the population average is 0 for the intercept, but vary
from a patient to another?

Of course, assuming a null (mean) intercept strongly depends on the
coding of the quantitative (or ordered) predictor, so can be easily
misleading I guess...

Hope this help,