parallel MCMCglmm, RNGstreams, starting values & priors
Dear Jarrod, thanks for the quick reply. Please, don't waste time looking into doMPI ? I am happy that I get the expected result, when I specify that reproducible seed, whyever that may be. I'm pretty sure that is the deciding factor, because I tested it explicitly, I just have no idea how/why it interacts with the choice of family. That said, is setting up different RNG streams for my workers (now that it works) __sufficient__ so that I get independent chains and can use gelman.diag() for convergence diagnostics? Or should I still tinker with the starting values myself? I've never found a worked example of supplying starting values and am thus a bit lost. Sorry for sending further questions, I hope someone else takes pity while you're busy with lectures. Best wishes Ruben
On 25 Aug 2014, at 17:29, Jarrod Hadfield <j.hadfield at ed.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi Ruben, I do not think the issue is with the starting values, because even if the same starting values were used the chains would still differ because of the randomness in the Markov Chain (if I interpret your `identical' test correctly). This just involves a call to GetRNGstate() in the C++ code (L 871 ofMCMCglmm.cc) so I think for some reason doMPI/foreach is not doing what you expect. I am not familiar with doMPI and am in the middle of writing lectures so haven't got time to look into it carefully. Outside of the context of doMPI I get the behaviour I expect: l<-rnorm(200, -1, sqrt(1)) t<-(-log(1-runif(200)*(1-exp(-exp(l))))) y<-rpois(200,exp(l)-t)+1 # generate zero-truncated data with an intercept of -1 dat<-data.frame(y=y) set.seed(1) m1<-MCMCglmm(y~1, family="ztpoisson", data=dat) set.seed(2) m2<-MCMCglmm(y~1, family="ztpoisson", data=dat) set.seed(2) m3<-MCMCglmm(y~1, family="ztpoisson", data=dat) plot(mcmc.list(m1$Sol, m2$Sol)) # different, as expected plot(mcmc.list(m2$Sol, m3$Sol)) # the same, as expected Quoting Ruben Arslan <rubenarslan at gmail.com> on Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:58:06 +0200:
Dear list, sorry for bumping my old post, I hope to elicit a response with a more focused question: When does MCMCglmm automatically start from different values when using doMPI/foreach? I have done some tests with models of varying complexity. For example, the script in my last post (using "zapoisson") yielded 40 identical chains:
identical(mcmclist[1], mcmclist[30])
TRUE
A simpler (?) model (using "ztpoisson" and no specified prior), however, yielded different chains
and I could use them to calculate gelman.diag()
Changing my script to the version below, i.e. seeding foreach using .options.mpi=list( seed= 1337)
so as to make RNGstreams reproducible (or so I thought), led to different chains even for the
"zapoisson" model.
In no case have I (successfully) tried to supplant the default of MCMCglmm's "start" argument.
Is starting my models from different RNGsubstreams inadequate compared to manipulating
the start argument explicitly? If so, is there any worked example of explicit starting value manipulation
in parallel computation?
I've browsed the MCMCglmm source to understand how the default starting values are generated,
but didn't find any differences with respect to RNG for the two families "ztpoisson" and "zapoisson"
(granted, I did not dig very deep).
Best regards,
Ruben Arslan
# bsub -q mpi -W 12:00 -n 41 -R np20 mpirun -H localhost -n 41 R --slave -f "/usr/users/rarslan/rpqa/rpqa_main/rpqa_children_parallel.R"
library(doMPI)
cl <- startMPIcluster(verbose=T,workdir="/usr/users/rarslan/rpqa/rpqa_main/")
registerDoMPI(cl)
Children_mcmc1 = foreach(i=1:clusterSize(cl),.options.mpi = list(seed=1337) ) %dopar% {
library(MCMCglmm);library(data.table)
load("/usr/users/rarslan/rpqa/rpqa1.rdata")
nitt = 130000; thin = 100; burnin = 30000
prior.m5d.2 = list(
R = list(V = diag(c(1,1)), nu = 0.002),
G=list(list(V=diag(c(1,1e-6)),nu=0.002))
)
rpqa.1 = na.omit(rpqa.1[spouses>0, list(idParents, children, male, urban, spouses, paternalage.mean, paternalage.factor)])
(m1 = MCMCglmm( children ~ trait * (male + urban + spouses + paternalage.mean + paternalage.factor),
rcov=~us(trait):units,
random=~us(trait):idParents,
family="zapoisson",
prior = prior.m5d.2,
data=rpqa.1,
pr = F, saveX = F, saveZ = F,
nitt=nitt,thin=thin,burnin=burnin))
}
library(coda)
mcmclist = mcmc.list(lapply(Children_mcmc1,FUN=function(x) { x$Sol}))
save(Children_mcmc1,mcmclist, file = "/usr/users/rarslan/rpqa/rpqa_main/rpqa_mcmc_kids_za.rdata")
closeCluster(cl)
mpi.quit()
On 04 Aug 2014, at 20:25, Ruben Arslan <rubenarslan at gmail.com> wrote:
Dear list,
would someone be willing to share her or his efforts in parallelising a MCMCglmm analysis?
I had something viable using harvestr that seemed to properly initialise
the starting values from different random number streams (which is desirable,
as far as I could find out), but I ended up being unable to use harvestr, because
it uses an old version of plyr, where parallelisation works only for multicore, not for
MPI.
I pasted my working version, that does not do anything about starting values or RNG
at the end of this email. I can try to fumble further in the dark or try to update harvestr,
but maybe someone has gone through all this already.
I'd also appreciate any tips for elegantly post-processing such parallel data, as some of my usual
extraction functions and routines are hampered by the fact that some coda functions
do not aggregate results over chains. (What I get from a single-chain summary in MCMCglmm
is a bit more comprehensive, than what I managed to cobble together with my own extraction
functions).
The reason I'm parallelising my analyses is that I'm having trouble getting a good effective
sample size for any parameter having to do with the many zeroes in my data.
Any pointers are very appreciated, I'm quite inexperienced with MCMCglmm.
Best wishes
Ruben
# bsub -q mpi-short -W 2:00 -n 42 -R np20 mpirun -H localhost -n 41 R --slave -f "rpqa/rpqa_main/rpqa_children_parallel.r"
library(doMPI)
cl <- startMPIcluster()
registerDoMPI(cl)
Children_mcmc1 = foreach(i=1:40) %dopar% {
library(MCMCglmm)
load("rpqa1.rdata")
nitt = 40000; thin = 100; burnin = 10000
prior = list(
R = list(V = diag(c(1,1)), nu = 0.002),
G=list(list(V=diag(c(1,1e-6)),nu=0.002))
)
MCMCglmm( children ~ trait -1 + at.level(trait,1):male + at.level(trait,1):urban + at.level(trait,1):spouses + at.level(trait,1):paternalage.mean + at.level(trait,1):paternalage.factor,
rcov=~us(trait):units,
random=~us(trait):idParents,
family="zapoisson",
prior = prior,
data=rpqa.1,
pr = F, saveX = T, saveZ = T,
nitt=nitt,thin=thin,burnin=burnin)
}
library(coda)
mcmclist = mcmc.list(lapply(Children_mcmc1,FUN=function(x) { x$Sol}))
save(Children_mcmc1,mcmclist, file = "rpqa_mcmc_kids_za.rdata")
closeCluster(cl)
mpi.quit()
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