Dear list, Consider a within-subject and within-item factorial design where the experimental treatment variable has two levels (conditions). Let m1 be the maximal model, m2 the no-within-unit-intercepts model and m3 the no-random-correlation model: m1: y ~ condition + (condition|subject) + (condition|item) m2: y ~ condition + (0 + condition|subject) + (0 + condition|item) m3: y ~ condition + (1|subject) + (0 + condition|subject) + (1|item) + (0 + condition|item) Dale Barr states the following for this situation [1]: In a deviation-coding representation (condition: -0.5 vs. 0.5) both models, m1 and m2, allow distributions, where subject's random intercepts are uncorrelated with subject's random slopes. Only a maximal model allows distributions, where the two are correlated. In the treatment-coding representation (condition: 0 vs. 1) these distributions, where subject's random intercepts are uncorrelated with subject's random slopes, cannot be fitted using the no-random-correlations model, *since in each case there is a correlation between random slope and intercept in the treatment-coding representation.* Why does treatment coding always result in a correlation between random slope and intercept? Please note that I asked the question on Stack Exchange [2] about 10 days ago. Regards, Maarten [1] http://talklab.psy.gla.ac.uk/simgen/rsonly.html [2] https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/337158/why-does-treatment-coding-always-result-in-a-correlation-between-random-slope-an
Why does treatment coding always result in a correlation between random slope and intercept?
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