Hello all, I was wonder if anyone is aware of an R package with random effect Tobit. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best, Hedyeh Ahmadi, Ph.D. Statistician Keck School of Medicine Department of Preventive Medicine University of Southern California Postdoctoral Scholar Institute for Interdisciplinary Salivary Bioscience Research (IISBR) University of California, Irvine LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/hedyeh-ahmadi<http://www.linkedin.com/in/hedyeh-ahmadi>
Random Effect Tobit
6 messages · Hedyeh Ahmadi, Dimitris Rizopoulos, Ben Bolker
You can use the GLMMadaptive package (https://drizopoulos.github.io/GLMMadaptive/) and the censored.normal() family object. An example is given here: https://drizopoulos.github.io/JMbayes2/articles/Non_Gaussian_Mixed_Models.html#censored-linear-mixed-models-1 Best, Dimitris -----Original Message----- From: R-sig-mixed-models <r-sig-mixed-models-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of Hedyeh Ahmadi Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:25 AM To: r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org Subject: [R-sig-ME] Random Effect Tobit Hello all, I was wonder if anyone is aware of an R package with random effect Tobit. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best, Hedyeh Ahmadi, Ph.D. Statistician Keck School of Medicine Department of Preventive Medicine University of Southern California Postdoctoral Scholar Institute for Interdisciplinary Salivary Bioscience Research (IISBR) University of California, Irvine LinkedIn https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fhedyeh-ahmadi&data=04%7C01%7Cd.rizopoulos%40erasmusmc.nl%7C7364e0f85ee144bb719708d97705625c%7C526638ba6af34b0fa532a1a511f4ac80%7C0%7C1%7C637671687284917965%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=vLU5PQqaPxCr3p6PdnRWyYdyCJhys%2BA4r9RMaS%2FnPLU%3D&reserved=0<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fhedyeh-ahmadi&data=04%7C01%7Cd.rizopoulos%40erasmusmc.nl%7C7364e0f85ee144bb719708d97705625c%7C526638ba6af34b0fa532a1a511f4ac80%7C0%7C1%7C637671687284917965%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=vLU5PQqaPxCr3p6PdnRWyYdyCJhys%2BA4r9RMaS%2FnPLU%3D&reserved=0> _______________________________________________ R-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org mailing list https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstat.ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-sig-mixed-models&data=04%7C01%7Cd.rizopoulos%40erasmusmc.nl%7C7364e0f85ee144bb719708d97705625c%7C526638ba6af34b0fa532a1a511f4ac80%7C0%7C1%7C637671687284917965%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=xeoG32%2FqVvSSAfwGEZvNK9dHVdkdOKhfUK6ZnOH6wqo%3D&reserved=0
This CrossValidated answer: https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/544511/zero-inflated-gaussian-for-weights-below-zero-recorded-as-0?noredirect=1#comment999636_544511 says that the censReg package can handle random effects Tobit models via Gauss-Hermite Quadrature (GLMMadaptive is great, but it's nice to have options)
On 9/14/21 3:32 AM, Dimitris Rizopoulos wrote:
You can use the GLMMadaptive package (https://drizopoulos.github.io/GLMMadaptive/) and the censored.normal() family object. An example is given here: https://drizopoulos.github.io/JMbayes2/articles/Non_Gaussian_Mixed_Models.html#censored-linear-mixed-models-1 Best, Dimitris -----Original Message----- From: R-sig-mixed-models <r-sig-mixed-models-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of Hedyeh Ahmadi Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:25 AM To: r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org Subject: [R-sig-ME] Random Effect Tobit Hello all, I was wonder if anyone is aware of an R package with random effect Tobit. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best, Hedyeh Ahmadi, Ph.D. Statistician Keck School of Medicine Department of Preventive Medicine University of Southern California Postdoctoral Scholar Institute for Interdisciplinary Salivary Bioscience Research (IISBR) University of California, Irvine LinkedIn https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fhedyeh-ahmadi&data=04%7C01%7Cd.rizopoulos%40erasmusmc.nl%7C7364e0f85ee144bb719708d97705625c%7C526638ba6af34b0fa532a1a511f4ac80%7C0%7C1%7C637671687284917965%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=vLU5PQqaPxCr3p6PdnRWyYdyCJhys%2BA4r9RMaS%2FnPLU%3D&reserved=0<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fhedyeh-ahmadi&data=04%7C01%7Cd.rizopoulos%40erasmusmc.nl%7C7364e0f85ee144bb719708d97705625c%7C526638ba6af34b0fa532a1a511f4ac80%7C0%7C1%7C637671687284917965%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=vLU5PQqaPxCr3p6PdnRWyYdyCJhys%2BA4r9RMaS%2FnPLU%3D&reserved=0> [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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Indeed, but the censReg does not seem to update the abscissas and weights during the optimization procedure. Best, Dimitris ?? Dimitris Rizopoulos Professor of Biostatistics Erasmus University Medical Center The Netherlands
From: R-sig-mixed-models <r-sig-mixed-models-bounces at r-project.org> on behalf of Ben Bolker <bbolker at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 2:08:13 AM
To: r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org <r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org>
Subject: Re: [R-sig-ME] Random Effect Tobit
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 2:08:13 AM
To: r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org <r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org>
Subject: Re: [R-sig-ME] Random Effect Tobit
This CrossValidated answer: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstats.stackexchange.com%2Fquestions%2F544511%2Fzero-inflated-gaussian-for-weights-below-zero-recorded-as-0%3Fnoredirect%3D1%23comment999636_544511&data=04%7C01%7Cd.rizopoulos%40erasmusmc.nl%7C40b92da1072c42854dfd08d977dcf8ed%7C526638ba6af34b0fa532a1a511f4ac80%7C0%7C1%7C637672613225156938%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=YnBAIBxTozwjcNne6Mwu%2Fks6bMGD8h65RPGNk1pkiyg%3D&reserved=0 says that the censReg package can handle random effects Tobit models via Gauss-Hermite Quadrature (GLMMadaptive is great, but it's nice to have options) On 9/14/21 3:32 AM, Dimitris Rizopoulos wrote: > You can use the GLMMadaptive package (https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdrizopoulos.github.io%2FGLMMadaptive%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cd.rizopoulos%40erasmusmc.nl%7C40b92da1072c42854dfd08d977dcf8ed%7C526638ba6af34b0fa532a1a511f4ac80%7C0%7C1%7C637672613225156938%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=fPFues1lFb26w8DBx2Pg2RvbCRZT3Uq7Pd3QQUbfeic%3D&reserved=0) and the censored.normal() family object. An example is given here: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdrizopoulos.github.io%2FJMbayes2%2Farticles%2FNon_Gaussian_Mixed_Models.html%23censored-linear-mixed-models-1&data=04%7C01%7Cd.rizopoulos%40erasmusmc.nl%7C40b92da1072c42854dfd08d977dcf8ed%7C526638ba6af34b0fa532a1a511f4ac80%7C0%7C1%7C637672613225156938%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=tKMo%2BIYYy3M8mdUf5KdLjvk%2BCSC0QxGvfLRk6Vln3rU%3D&reserved=0 > > > Best, > Dimitris > > -----Original Message----- > From: R-sig-mixed-models <r-sig-mixed-models-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of Hedyeh Ahmadi > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:25 AM > To: r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org > Subject: [R-sig-ME] Random Effect Tobit > > Hello all, > I was wonder if anyone is aware of an R package with random effect Tobit. 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Can you explain a bit more? Is this the distinction that is
sometimes made between Gauss-Hermite quadrature and *adaptive* GHQ, i.e.
whether the expansion is centered at the population-level value or at
zero? (If so, I would *definitely* recommend GLMMadaptive, non-adaptive
GHQ can be terrible in some cases ...)
cheers
Ben Bolker
On 9/14/21 9:26 PM, Dimitris Rizopoulos wrote:
Indeed, but the censReg does not seem to update the abscissas and weights during the optimization procedure. Best, Dimitris ?? Dimitris Rizopoulos Professor of Biostatistics Erasmus University Medical Center The Netherlands ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* R-sig-mixed-models <r-sig-mixed-models-bounces at r-project.org> on behalf of Ben Bolker <bbolker at gmail.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2021 2:08:13 AM *To:* r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org <r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org> *Subject:* Re: [R-sig-ME] Random Effect Tobit This CrossValidated answer: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstats.stackexchange.com%2Fquestions%2F544511%2Fzero-inflated-gaussian-for-weights-below-zero-recorded-as-0%3Fnoredirect%3D1%23comment999636_544511&data=04%7C01%7Cd.rizopoulos%40erasmusmc.nl%7C40b92da1072c42854dfd08d977dcf8ed%7C526638ba6af34b0fa532a1a511f4ac80%7C0%7C1%7C637672613225156938%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=YnBAIBxTozwjcNne6Mwu%2Fks6bMGD8h65RPGNk1pkiyg%3D&reserved=0 <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstats.stackexchange.com%2Fquestions%2F544511%2Fzero-inflated-gaussian-for-weights-below-zero-recorded-as-0%3Fnoredirect%3D1%23comment999636_544511&data=04%7C01%7Cd.rizopoulos%40erasmusmc.nl%7C40b92da1072c42854dfd08d977dcf8ed%7C526638ba6af34b0fa532a1a511f4ac80%7C0%7C1%7C637672613225156938%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=YnBAIBxTozwjcNne6Mwu%2Fks6bMGD8h65RPGNk1pkiyg%3D&reserved=0> ? says that the censReg package can handle random effects Tobit models via Gauss-Hermite Quadrature (GLMMadaptive is great, but it's nice to have options) On 9/14/21 3:32 AM, Dimitris Rizopoulos wrote:
You can use the GLMMadaptive package (https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdrizopoulos.github.io%2FGLMMadaptive%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cd.rizopoulos%40erasmusmc.nl%7C40b92da1072c42854dfd08d977dcf8ed%7C526638ba6af34b0fa532a1a511f4ac80%7C0%7C1%7C637672613225156938%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=fPFues1lFb26w8DBx2Pg2RvbCRZT3Uq7Pd3QQUbfeic%3D&reserved=0
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Best, Dimitris -----Original Message----- From: R-sig-mixed-models <r-sig-mixed-models-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of Hedyeh Ahmadi Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:25 AM To: r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org Subject: [R-sig-ME] Random Effect Tobit Hello all, I was wonder if anyone is aware of an R package with random effect Tobit. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best, Hedyeh Ahmadi, Ph.D. Statistician Keck School of Medicine Department of Preventive Medicine University of Southern California Postdoctoral Scholar Institute for Interdisciplinary Salivary Bioscience Research (IISBR) University of California, Irvine LinkedIn https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fhedyeh-ahmadi&data=04%7C01%7Cd.rizopoulos%40erasmusmc.nl%7C40b92da1072c42854dfd08d977dcf8ed%7C526638ba6af34b0fa532a1a511f4ac80%7C0%7C1%7C637672613225156938%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=GUUoQKAivyRPkhnPXgn1m4eV2Oxjh7LLMhtjn9rW4eM%3D&reserved=0<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fhedyeh-ahmadi&data=04%7C01%7Cd.rizopoulos%40erasmusmc.nl%7C40b92da1072c42854dfd08d977dcf8ed%7C526638ba6af34b0fa532a1a511f4ac80%7C0%7C1%7C637672613225156938%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=GUUoQKAivyRPkhnPXgn1m4eV2Oxjh7LLMhtjn9rW4eM%3D&reserved=0
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Yes, it seems to me that the non-adaptive GH is used according to procedure described in Section 3.4 here: https://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/censReg/vignettes/censReg.pdf The adaptive GH updates the position of the abscissas and the weights during the optimization to achieve a better approximation of the log-likelihood. ?? Dimitris Rizopoulos Professor of Biostatistics Erasmus University Medical Center The Netherlands
From: Ben Bolker <bbolker at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:28:43 AM
To: Dimitris Rizopoulos <d.rizopoulos at erasmusmc.nl>; r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org <r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org>
Subject: Re: [R-sig-ME] Random Effect Tobit
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:28:43 AM
To: Dimitris Rizopoulos <d.rizopoulos at erasmusmc.nl>; r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org <r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org>
Subject: Re: [R-sig-ME] Random Effect Tobit
Can you explain a bit more? Is this the distinction that is
sometimes made between Gauss-Hermite quadrature and *adaptive* GHQ, i.e.
whether the expansion is centered at the population-level value or at
zero? (If so, I would *definitely* recommend GLMMadaptive, non-adaptive
GHQ can be terrible in some cases ...)
cheers
Ben Bolker
On 9/14/21 9:26 PM, Dimitris Rizopoulos wrote:
> Indeed, but the censReg does not seem to update the abscissas and
> weights during the optimization procedure.
>
> Best,
> Dimitris
>
> ??
> Dimitris Rizopoulos
> Professor of Biostatistics
> Erasmus University Medical Center
> The Netherlands
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> *Subject:* Re: [R-sig-ME] Random Effect Tobit
> This CrossValidated answer:
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> says that the censReg package can handle random effects Tobit models
> via Gauss-Hermite Quadrature (GLMMadaptive is great, but it's nice to
> have options)
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> On 9/14/21 3:32 AM, Dimitris Rizopoulos wrote:
>> You can use the GLMMadaptive package (https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdrizopoulos.github.io%2FGLMMadaptive%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cd.rizopoulos%40erasmusmc.nl%7C596d927815de4130a05708d977e8293c%7C526638ba6af34b0fa532a1a511f4ac80%7C0%7C1%7C637672661273318983%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=vPMiaxS3qhMVxCTCCk%2F25Rofp80fuyVxvc4BQTuPaQ0%3D&reserved=0
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>> Best,
>> Dimitris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: R-sig-mixed-models <r-sig-mixed-models-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of Hedyeh Ahmadi
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:25 AM
>> To: r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org
>> Subject: [R-sig-ME] Random Effect Tobit
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I was wonder if anyone is aware of an R package with random effect Tobit. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Hedyeh Ahmadi, Ph.D.
>> Statistician
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>> Department of Preventive Medicine
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