Hi Thank you so much. But if so, can I report these results in my academic paper? Or how can I report these results properly to reviewers in my paper ? Or do we have to continue to find the model without warning for the academic paper?? If you have any suggestion, please let me know. Atsu
the model with warning
3 messages · Atsuko Nakagawa, Ben Bolker, Thierry Onkelinx
(Personal opinion follows.) I don't think you need to report these warnings in the main section of a paper **as long as you understand what they are telling you and are reasonably certain that they do not represent a problem with the interpretation/robustness of your results**. These are kinds of the details that would go into supplementary material, if at all. But this does sound like it might be a case where you should try to find more dedicated statistical advice than you can get from an internet forum ... Ben Bolker
On 5/18/21 10:25 AM, Atsuko Nakagawa wrote:
Hi Thank you so much. But if so, can I report these results in my academic paper? Or how can I report these results properly to reviewers in my paper ? Or do we have to continue to find the model without warning for the academic paper?? If you have any suggestion, please let me know. Atsu
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I second Ben's suggestions. You need a statistician to look into your data and model in order to get an idea why and where the rank deficiency occurs. Only then you'll know how you can either solve that problem or if it's safe to ignore it. ir. Thierry Onkelinx Statisticus / Statistician Vlaamse Overheid / Government of Flanders INSTITUUT VOOR NATUUR- EN BOSONDERZOEK / RESEARCH INSTITUTE FOR NATURE AND FOREST Team Biometrie & Kwaliteitszorg / Team Biometrics & Quality Assurance thierry.onkelinx at inbo.be Havenlaan 88 bus 73, 1000 Brussel www.inbo.be /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// To call in the statistician after the experiment is done may be no more than asking him to perform a post-mortem examination: he may be able to say what the experiment died of. ~ Sir Ronald Aylmer Fisher The plural of anecdote is not data. ~ Roger Brinner The combination of some data and an aching desire for an answer does not ensure that a reasonable answer can be extracted from a given body of data. ~ John Tukey /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// <https://www.inbo.be> Op di 18 mei 2021 om 18:00 schreef Ben Bolker <bbolker at gmail.com>:
(Personal opinion follows.) I don't think you need to report these warnings in the main section of a paper **as long as you understand what they are telling you and are reasonably certain that they do not represent a problem with the interpretation/robustness of your results**. These are kinds of the details that would go into supplementary material, if at all. But this does sound like it might be a case where you should try to find more dedicated statistical advice than you can get from an internet forum ... Ben Bolker On 5/18/21 10:25 AM, Atsuko Nakagawa wrote:
Hi Thank you so much. But if so, can I report these results in my academic paper? Or how can I report these results properly to reviewers in my paper ? Or do we have to continue to find the model without warning for the academic paper? If you have any suggestion, please let me know. Atsu
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