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Random-effects model with known error variance
3 messages · Asaf Weinstein, Doran, Harold, ONKELINX, Thierry
Yes, lmer can handle unbalanced data. No, you cannot constrain one of the variances to have a fixed value using lmer. Solutions for linear mixed models are well-known, and so if your grasp of R programming and matrix algebra is decent, then it is very easy to do this.
-----Original Message----- From: r-sig-mixed-models-bounces at r-project.org [mailto:r-sig-mixed-models- bounces at r-project.org] On Behalf Of Asaf Weinstein Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:08 PM To: r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org Subject: [R-sig-ME] Random-effects model with known error variance Hi there, I am trying to fit a random effects two-way linear model with unbalanced data, and have two questions: 1. Can someone verify that lmer() can indeed cope with an unbalanced table? 2. This might be more difficult: I am looking to fit the same model with a KNOWN value for the error variance (sigma sq). I wonder if this is possible to do with current package, and if not, if it's a good idea to look into the implementation and try to do it myself. I'm curious to know how difficult that would be to a not-too-sophisticated R user. Thanks so much, Asaf [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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If you are prepared to do it the Bayesian way, then you can fix the variance of the random effect. Have a look at the MCMCglmm package. Best regards, ir. Thierry Onkelinx Instituut voor natuur- en bosonderzoek / Research Institute for Nature and Forest team Biometrie & Kwaliteitszorg / team Biometrics & Quality Assurance Kliniekstraat 25 1070 Anderlecht Belgium + 32 2 525 02 51 + 32 54 43 61 85 Thierry.Onkelinx at inbo.be www.inbo.be To call in the statistician after the experiment is done may be no more than asking him to perform a post-mortem examination: he may be able to say what the experiment died of. ~ Sir Ronald Aylmer Fisher The plural of anecdote is not data. ~ Roger Brinner The combination of some data and an aching desire for an answer does not ensure that a reasonable answer can be extracted from a given body of data. ~ John Tukey -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: r-sig-mixed-models-bounces at r-project.org [mailto:r-sig-mixed-models-bounces at r-project.org] Namens Doran, Harold Verzonden: maandag 12 november 2012 21:45 Aan: Asaf Weinstein; r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org Onderwerp: Re: [R-sig-ME] Random-effects model with known error variance Yes, lmer can handle unbalanced data. No, you cannot constrain one of the variances to have a fixed value using lmer. Solutions for linear mixed models are well-known, and so if your grasp of R programming and matrix algebra is decent, then it is very easy to do this.
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[mailto:r-sig-mixed-models- bounces at r-project.org] On Behalf Of Asaf
Weinstein
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:08 PM
To: r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org
Subject: [R-sig-ME] Random-effects model with known error variance
Hi there,
I am trying to fit a random effects two-way linear model with
unbalanced data, and have two questions:
1. Can someone verify that lmer() can indeed cope with an unbalanced
table?
2. This might be more difficult: I am looking to fit the same model with
a KNOWN value for the error variance (sigma sq). I wonder if this is
possible to do with current package, and if not, if it's a good idea to
look into the implementation and try to do it myself. I'm curious to know
how difficult that would be to a not-too-sophisticated R user.
Thanks so much,
Asaf
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