Dear R mixed model experts, Can anyone one confirm me if I get a warning message using glmmADMB for the significance tests of random effects by comparing models with LRTs? I'm using glmmADMB version 0.8.0 in R (version 3.1.0) and getting the following warning message: "Warning message: In anova.glmmadmb(m1, m2) : rearranging models in order of increasing complexity" Just for your kind information, I found an explanation from Ben Bolker where he says that the updated version will fix / clarify this problem ( https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-sig-mixed-models/2012q1/017920.html). Is it the version that I'm using? I'm using this glmmADMB model for my zeroinflated and poisson data. If it is not the appropriate model because of this warning, could you please suggest me an alternative model (e.g. MCMCglmm)? If I asked something odd/silly for this group, sorry for that and please ignore it. ?Thanks in advance, Moshi
Warning message in glmmADMB
3 messages · Ulf Köther, Moshiur Rahman
Dear Moshi, just rearrange the tested models (as it is stated in the warning), e.g.: anova(m2,m1) and the warning should go away. It's only that the warning informs you about the changed order of the models listed by the anova-result with the smaller model (less df) being listed first. It does not say anything about an inappropriate test... Kind regards, Ulf Am 10.09.2014 um 10:28 schrieb Moshiur Rahman:
Dear R mixed model experts, Can anyone one confirm me if I get a warning message using glmmADMB for the significance tests of random effects by comparing models with LRTs? I'm using glmmADMB version 0.8.0 in R (version 3.1.0) and getting the following warning message: "Warning message: In anova.glmmadmb(m1, m2) : rearranging models in order of increasing complexity" Just for your kind information, I found an explanation from Ben Bolker where he says that the updated version will fix / clarify this problem ( https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-sig-mixed-models/2012q1/017920.html). Is it the version that I'm using? I'm using this glmmADMB model for my zeroinflated and poisson data. If it is not the appropriate model because of this warning, could you please suggest me an alternative model (e.g. MCMCglmm)? If I asked something odd/silly for this group, sorry for that and please ignore it. ?Thanks in advance, Moshi [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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Thanks a lot Ulf for your very quick response and confirmation. Cheers, Moshi
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Ulf K?ther <ukoether at uke.de> wrote:
Dear Moshi, just rearrange the tested models (as it is stated in the warning), e.g.: anova(m2,m1) and the warning should go away. It's only that the warning informs you about the changed order of the models listed by the anova-result with the smaller model (less df) being listed first. It does not say anything about an inappropriate test... Kind regards, Ulf Am 10.09.2014 um 10:28 schrieb Moshiur Rahman:
Dear R mixed model experts, Can anyone one confirm me if I get a warning message using glmmADMB for
the
significance tests of random effects by comparing models with LRTs? I'm using glmmADMB version 0.8.0 in R (version 3.1.0) and getting the
following
warning message: "Warning message: In anova.glmmadmb(m1, m2) : rearranging models in order of increasing complexity" Just for your kind information, I found an explanation from Ben Bolker where he says that the updated version will fix / clarify this problem ( https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-sig-mixed-models/2012q1/017920.html).
Is
it the version that I'm using?
I'm using this glmmADMB model for my zeroinflated and poisson data. If it
is not the appropriate model because of this warning, could you please
suggest me an alternative model (e.g. MCMCglmm)?
If I asked something odd/silly for this group, sorry for that and please
ignore it.
?Thanks in advance,
Moshi
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