Best,
Jihee
From: "Fox, John" <jfox at mcmaster.ca>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:59:03 AM
To:"???" <wjh1518 at ht.co.kr>
Cc:"r-help at r-project.org" <r-help at r-project.org>
Subject:Re: [R] importing data error question
? Dear jihee,
I've looked into this problem further, using my Mac where it's easier to
temporarily change languages and character sets than on Windows, and I
discovered the following:
I was able to duplicate your problem with importing Excel files when working
in Korean. There's a similar problem with the import SAS b7dat files but not
with the other file-import dialogs.
I observed a similar problem when working in Chinese (LANG="zh") but not in
simplified Chinese (zh_CN) or Japanese (ja), so the problem isn't simply with
non-Latin character sets. There is no problem in English, Spanish (es), or
French (fr), and I didn't check the other languages into which the Rcmdr is
translated.
I think that the problem originates in the Korean and Chinese translation files
and I'll contact the translators to see whether they can fix it.
Thank you for reporting this issue.
John
> On Jan 14, 2019, at 11:36 PM, Fox, John <jfox at mcmaster.ca> wrote:
>
> Dear jihee,
>
>> On Jan 14, 2019, at 9:00 PM, ??? <wjh1518 at ht.co.kr> wrote:
>>
>> You said previously that you were using a Mac, so I'm surprised that you
now say that you're using Windows. I don't have a Windows 7 system, but I
can confirm that importing from Excel files works perfectly fine under
Windows 10, as I just verified, and I'd be surprised if the Windows version
matters.
>>
>> --> no, I never said i was using a Mac.
>
> Sorry, I guess I got that from the error message you originally reported,
which was "Error in structure(.External(.C_dotTclObjv, objv), class = "tclObj") :
[tcl] bad Macintosh file type "?*?"." I've never seen that error and it seems
peculiar that it would occur on a Windows system.
>>
>> You still haven't reported the versions of R, the Rcmdr package, and the
other packages that you're using. The easiest way to do this is to show the
output of the sessionInfo() command.
>>
>> --> sessionInfo()
>> R version 3.5.2 (2018-12-20)
>> Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit) >> Running under: Windows
7 x64 (build 7601) Service Pack 1 >> >> Matrix products: default >> >>
locale:
>> [1] LC_COLLATE=Korean_Korea.949 LC_CTYPE=Korean_Korea.949 >> [3]
LC_MONETARY=Korean_Korea.949 LC_NUMERIC=C >> [5]
LC_TIME=Korean_Korea.949 >> >> attached base packages:
>> [1] tcltk splines stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods >> [9] base
>> other attached packages:
>> [1] RcmdrPlugin.SensoMineR_1.11-01 RcmdrPlugin.FactoMineR_1.6-0 >>
[3] Rcmdr_2.5-1 effects_4.1-0 >> [5] RcmdrMisc_2.5-1 sandwich_2.5-0 >> [7]
car_3.0-2 carData_3.0-2 >> [9] SensoMineR_1.23 FactoMineR_1.41 >> >>
loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
>> [1] gtools_3.8.1 Formula_1.2-3 latticeExtra_0.6-28 >> [4] cellranger_1.1.0
pillar_1.3.1 backports_1.1.3 >> [7] lattice_0.20-38 digest_0.6.18
RColorBrewer_1.1-2 >> [10] checkmate_1.8.5 minqa_1.2.4 colorspace_1.3-2
[13] survey_3.35 htmltools_0.3.6 Matrix_1.2-15 >> [16] plyr_1.8.4
pkgconfig_2.0.2 haven_2.0.0 >> [19] scales_1.0.0 openxlsx_4.1.0 rio_0.5.16
[22] lme4_1.1-19 htmlTable_1.13.1 tibble_1.4.2 >> [25] relimp_1.0-5
ggplot2_3.1.0 nnet_7.3-12 >> [28] lazyeval_0.2.1 survival_2.43-3 magrittr_1.5
[31] crayon_1.3.4 readxl_1.2.0 nlme_3.1-137 >> [34] MASS_7.3-51.1
forcats_0.3.0 foreign_0.8-71 >> [37] class_7.3-14 tools_3.5.2
data.table_1.11.8 >> [40] hms_0.4.2 tcltk2_1.2-11 stringr_1.3.1 >> [43]
munsell_0.5.0 cluster_2.0.7-1 zip_1.0.0 >> [46] flashClust_1.01-2
compiler_3.5.2 e1071_1.7-0 >> [49] rlang_0.3.1 grid_3.5.2 nloptr_1.2.1 >>
[52] rstudioapi_0.9.0 htmlwidgets_1.3 leaps_3.0 >> [55] base64enc_0.1-3
gtable_0.2.0 abind_1.4-5 >> [58] curl_3.2 reshape2_1.4.3 AlgDesign_1.1-7.3
[61] gridExtra_2.3 zoo_1.8-4 knitr_1.21 >> [64] nortest_1.0-4 Hmisc_4.1-1
KernSmooth_2.23-15 >> [67] stringi_1.2.4 Rcpp_1.0.0 rpart_4.1-13 >> [70]
acepack_1.4.1 scatterplot3d_0.3-41 xfun_0.4 >> >> This was the status that I
tried to import Excel data.
>
> These packages seem up-to-date.
>
>>
>> Also, have you tried importing an Excel file in the Rcmdr *without* the two
plug-in packages loaded, as I suggested in my original response?
>>
>> --> I tried without plug-in packages, but It didn't work.
>
> OK, so you tried the setup that works for me and, I assume from the lack of
similar error reports, for others.
>>
>> It occurs to me that the problem may be produced by using the Rcmdr
under R with a non-Latin set, but if that were the case I would have expected
the problem to have surfaced earlier. Did you try reading another kind of file,
such as a plain-text data file?
>>
>> --> I don't know what is plain-text data file.....
>
> A plain-text data file could, e.g., be created from an Excel file by exporting a
worksheet as a .csv (comma-separated-values) file; you could read this into
the Rcmdr via Data > Import data > from text file, specifying the field
separator as commas.
>>
>> i'll try R with English.
>
> I'm curious to see what happens.
>
> Best,
> John
>
>>
>> From: "Fox, John" <jfox at mcmaster.ca> >> >> Sent: Monday, January 14,
2019 11:15:36 PM >> >> To:"???" <wjh1518 at ht.co.kr> >> >> Cc:"<r-
help at r-project.org>" <r-help at R-project.org></r-help at r-project.org>
>>
>> Subject:Re: [R] importing data error question >> >> Dear jihee, >> >>> On
Jan 13, 2019, at 9:28 PM, ??? <wjh1518 at ht.co.kr> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "???" <wjh1518 at ht.co.kr>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 9:40:26 AM >>> To:"Fox, John"
<jfox at mcmaster.ca> >>> Subject:Re: [R] importing data error question >>>
>>> Thanks for your replies.
>>>
>>> I'm using windows 7, I loaded FactoMineR, >> >> You said previously
that you were using a Mac, so I'm surprised that you now say that you're using
Windows. I don't have a Windows 7 system, but I can confirm that importing
from Excel files works perfectly fine under Windows 10, as I just verified, and
I'd be surprised if the Windows version matters.
>>> SensoMineR and then Rcmdr. (Downloaded FacroMineR, SensoMineR,
Rcmdr, Rcmdrplugin.FactomineR, Rcmdrplugin.SensomineR and other
required packages that downloaded automatically) >>> This problem
occurred when I select Data > Import data > From Excel file.
>>> I checked FactoMineR and SensoMineR packages are loaded and using..
>>
>> You still haven't reported the versions of R, the Rcmdr package, and the
other packages that you're using. The easiest way to do this is to show the
output of the sessionInfo() command.
>>
>> Also, have you tried importing an Excel file in the Rcmdr *without* the two
plug-in packages loaded, as I suggested in my original response?
>>
>> It occurs to me that the problem may be produced by using the Rcmdr
under R with a non-Latin set, but if that were the case I would have expected
the problem to have surfaced earlier. Did you try reading another kind of file,
such as a plain-text data file?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "Fox, John" <jfox at mcmaster.ca> >>> Sent: Friday, January 11,
2019 10:48:38 PM >>> To:"PIKAL Petr" <petr.pikal at precheza.cz> >>>
Cc:"???" <wjh1518 at ht.co.kr>; "r-help at R-project.org" <r-help at r-
project.org> >>> Subject:Re: [R] importing data error question >>> >>> >>>
Dear Petr and jihee, >>> >>> The Rcmdr can import Excel files, and as I just
verified, it can do so on a Mac listing files of all types (*) in the open-file dialog
box (which is the default).
>>>
>>> So, as Petr suggests, more information is required to help you, including
the versions of macOS, R, and all packages you have loaded. In particular,
does the problem occur when you try to read the Excel file *without*
FactoMineR and SensoMineR loaded? Also, when the does problem occur --
immediately when you select Data > Import data > From Excel file, or at some
other point?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> John
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>> John Fox, Professor Emeritus
>>> McMaster University
>>> Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
>>> Web: http::/socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox >>> >>>> On Jan 11, 2019, at 5:07
AM, PIKAL Petr <petr.pikal at precheza.cz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I do not use Rcmdr but from documentation it seems to me that it does
not have much to do with importing data from Excel.
>>>>
>>>> So without some additional info from your side (at least used
commands) you hardly get any reasonable answer.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Petr
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: R-help <r-help-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of ???
>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 9:14 AM >>>>> To: r-help at R-
project.org >>>>> Subject: [R] importing data error question >>>>> >>>>> Hi
I'm jihee and I have a question about error...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using R 3.5.2 and tried to use Rcmdr package.
>>>>>
>>>>> and using FactoMineR and SensoMineR to analyze sensory data
through PCA >>>>> >>>>> but i can't import excel data with Rcmdr.
>>>>>
>>>>> it has this messege :
>>>>>
>>>>> Error in structure(.External(.C_dotTclObjv, objv), class = "tclObj") :
>>>>> [tcl] bad Macintosh file type "?*?"
>>>>>
>>>>> what is wrong with my R??? T_T
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>>
>>>>> jihee.
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