R: Re: glmmadmb and time-effects
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On 13-08-15 09:20 AM, Luca Corlatti wrote:
Dear Ben, sorry for the late reply. Thanks for your advice, that's exactly what I needed. The inclusion of the random effect (variable|year:month) might be a bit tricky as several variables (cortisol, testosterone and home range, for instance) may be collinear with time, and I guess handling so many random factors may be difficult?
Maybe. It might be worth a try though. Depends on the size of your data set.
Apart from this, given the confounding effect of time, would it be correct to assume that the model selection with AIC may help anyway to disentangle to relative role of my variables to explain the parasite emission pattern?
Yes, although see the various caveats at http://glmm.wikidot.com/faq (search for "AIC")
Do you suggest in the discussion of my work I shall state some variables may be somewhat cofounded with time?
Yes.
Thanks in advance,
Luca
Ben Bolker <bbolker at gmail.com> 11/08/13 20.15 >>>
Luca Corlatti <luca.corlatti at ...> writes:
Dear all,
I am trying to analyse the relationship between parasite burden and several internal and external variables, including testosterone, cortisol, age, minimum temperature, home range. I have 2 years of data, collected on a monthly basis. My data are not normally distributed and overdispersed. I therefore fitted my global model as:
mod <- glmmadmb(parasite~testosterone + cortisol + age + Tmin + hr + age:testosterone + age:cortisol + (1|year:month) + (1|id), family="nbinom", data=mydata, ZeroInflation=FALSE)
Visual inspection of residuals suggest that the model fits the data adequately. Starting from here, I fitted a set of simpler models and ran a model selection and a model averaging of the competitive models.
The parasite emission shows marked monthly variation but, clearly, all the independent variables as somewhat dependent on time as well, and if I included month (time) as a fixed factor in the model, I am afraid the effects of such variables would be diluted. I therefore decided to include time as a random factor (1|year:month), but I am not sure if this is a plausible choice. Kind regards, Luke
It seems plausible, although technically if your independent variables are collinear with time, the most conservative/honest thing to do is to admit that your variables of interest are somewhat confounded with time. In other words, including time as a random factor should dilute the effect slightly less than including it as a fixed factor, but it will still dilute it some, and you can't really get around that. If some of your variables take on more than one value at each time step, you might consider including their interactions with time, e.g. (cortisol|year:month) to allow for variation in the _effect_ over time (the intercept-by-time model only allows for variation in the baseline parasite emission over time) -- see e.g. Schielzeth and Forstmeier Behavioural Ecology 2009 ...
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