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MCMCglmm evaluates distributions differently for different orderings of (unordered) response variables

Hi,

You should expect different answers depending on which category you  
have as base-line using the model you have. The model has two  
responses (trait): trait 1 is log(Pr(c1))-log(Pr(c3)) and trait 2 is  
log(Pr(c2))-log(Pr(c3)). These are the log-odds ratio of being c1  
versus c3 and the log-odds ratio of being c2 versus c3, where c3 is  
the base-line category. These two responses are indexed by the  
categorical variable `trait' in MCMCglmm.

Currently, you have ~condition as a fixed effect, which means that the  
intercept and the effect of condition is the same for the two  
responses. Depending on the choices you probably want something along  
the lines of ~trait:condition-1 so that separate effects are fitted  
for each.

~theme assumes that the between-theme variances for the two log-odds  
ratios are the same and the correlation between them is one. More  
likely you want or us(trait):theme (they have different variances and  
the correlation is to be estimated).

Only under the fully parameterised model (everything interacted with  
trait in the fixed effects, and us(trait): for the random effects)  
should you expect the models to be equivalent and not depend on the  
choice of base-line category. Even then they will be  
reparameterisations of each other and you will have to do some   
post-analysis manipulation to get the same set of numbers.

Cheers,

Jarrod







Quoting Christoph Terwitte <christerwi at gmail.com> on Sun, 2 Jun 2013  
18:44:23 +0200: